Posted by myco on April 2, 2009, at 22:53:20
In reply to Re: Is it ok to just take 5 htp once daily?, posted by qbsbrown on April 2, 2009, at 22:34:06
I would start and wait a few days at the first low dose you choose. move slowly and you will notice a line of change at some point...where it goes ya that feel good to ugh to much.
My friend there is no real way to get DA only ok...you increase DA and its gonna feed into the synthesis of NE regardless. There are no sups that only give DA just as virtually no rx meds (i know of) that only give DA....da is a step in the pathway. Technically you could "block" the step between DA and NE with an inhibitor but this is better on paper/in theory.
Also if this doesnt quite fit how you want it to work you can try adding an inhibitor of decarboxlase...basically blocking L-Dopa from becoming Dopamine in your body (outside the brain)...synthesis of neuros also takes place outside the brain in the "perifery" they call it...having DA form in the perifery will give some added effect (cant tell you what, its individual) maybe neg or pos. So adding a natural herbal like "green tea extract" (no caffeine make sure), which contains EGCG (a natural decarboxlase inhibitor), to your dopa bean will prevent da formation outside the brain thus increasing da formation inside the brain...this will provide a better effect on DA and NE possibly. Start without the inhibitor and see how it works then "play" if you want but adding EGCG or something similar to "potentiate" the effect of the bean....warning though. Careful when you play like this while on rx meds...dont this on maois and careful doing this if youre on a med that hits DA and NE hard anyway. added effect maybe to much. again play the dose game...adjust & adjust & adjust to best effect.
hmmm valium withdrawal. Its not gonna kill you. It may make you more irritable than you need to be...meaning increase the anxiety from valium withdrawal anyway...but didnt you have success with tyrosine small dose anyway? if you did then mucuna will help also at some dose. Just play....ideally though yes you want to be totally clean before starting to get the true feel of the sup. I like to start monotherapy usually then add from there...but im on nardil and im not quiting to assess a sup...so i just add really low and move up very slow. sups are needed in very miniscule quantities, in many cases, when on maois.
> Can you move up the dose daily until you hit the "irritability" or anxiety?
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> I much prefer the effects of dopamine than NE. I'm a little hesitant adding a CNS stimulant, while trying to come off of valium, CNS depressant.
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> What do you think?
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> Brian
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