Posted by MoparFan91 on July 29, 2005, at 20:56:00
In reply to Re: Inositol for OCD, posted by ghuber on July 27, 2005, at 18:05:45
> After reading this text, I laughed and realized we are a lot alike. I have never been diagnozed with bipolar, but sometimes I swear I have it. The celexa I'm on right now -- Well I swear it too makes me manic. For three days last week I felt real happy, wanted to shop, and do other sh*t without thinking of the repercussions. When realized on friday night I might be hypomanic, I decided to reduce the dosage of Celexa I took, and bam, by that evening I was back to reality. I've mentioned this to my Pdoc before, but he shrugs it off and says when I have it for an entire week in a row, we will talk about it... I'm starting to think I need a new pdoc!
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> Songs frequently get stuck in my head as well as problems or events (typically negative) I'm dealing with. I mainly suffer from mental ruminations, but rarely any compulusions. I go over things in my head like 100x, and still I do not stop thinking about whatever it is that troubles me. I am uncapable of stopping the thoughts...
>This is the worst part with my depression. My mind gets stuck on bad thoughts/memories, and they won't go away. I also get paranoid a lot in depressive episodes.
> If I was you I might consider loosing the Tyrosine and see how I felt. Tyrosine increases dopamine, which is shown increase obsessions. Aside from that, I would think you would want to shift the axis balance of serotonin/dopamine in favor of serotonin. This topic is something I'm investigating right now...
>I punted the Tyrosine! It was making me too edgy and irritable. I took several grams a day in the morning. It probably interfered with my sleep too.
I'm taking 1g of Taurine at night now (was on 6g several weeks ago).
I have many symptoms of Low Serotonin which are the following:
Incessant insomnia/frequent wake-ups at night
Emotional numbness/flatness
Sense of being worn out/fatigued
Appetite disturbances (carb/sugar cravings)
Loss of interest in things enjoyed
Social anxiety and withdrawal
Emotional pain and sadness (like a vacuum sucking my mood down)
Temperature changes (cold chills)
Loss of personality
Taking things personally, negatively
Odd behaviors
Negative ruminations
Obsessive Compulsive DisorderWith this huge list of symptoms, I'm most certainly going to shift my axis towards serotonin.
> Have you ever tried trytophan in place of the 5HTP? I hear it's more effective, though opinions do seem to differ about the matter.
>I've heard of it. I haven't tried Tryptophan yet. I'll ask my doctor about it. The 5-HTP didn't seem to do much for me or help me sleep even at 400+ mg. Maybe it's not the 'level' of serotonin causing the symptoms of "Low Serotonin", but low serotonin transmission and poor regulations (hence Luvox). It's like too much serotonin is being returned to the nerves and not getting to the brain where it's needed hence starving.
A good analogy is engine oil pressure in a car. Although low oil pressure is generally caused by a very low 'oil level', the oil pressure in a car can still be low even with a full oil pan for various reasons. If low oil pressure is caused by worn crankshaft bearings, too much oil is being returned to the pan and not reaching to the top of the engine where it's needed. It's like the serotonin not reaching the brain thing.
With the analogy serotonin = engine oil, pressure = transmission/regulation.
Also, is it ok to take Tryptophan with Luvox. What is the limit of Tryptophan that you can take with an SSRI before you run into problems?
> Do you take your aminos on an empty stomach and with co-factors that help convert them more readily?
>I usually take them 30-60min. before eating.
> I may be doing so own testing of my own on supplements again real soon. If I do, I'll let you know what works for me.
>My doctor is going to have me do the urine amino acids test to see what I'm deficient in.
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