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Re: newsweek article on mental health.. » raybakes

Posted by tealady on November 19, 2004, at 20:13:41

In reply to newsweek article on mental health.., posted by raybakes on November 8, 2004, at 7:21:47

> Interesting article on infection and the mind...
>
> 'Diseases of the Mind
> Bacteria, viruses and parasites may cause mental illnesses like depression and perhaps even autism and anorexia'
>
> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3540627
>
>

Hi Ray,
Still going thru old posts I was going to reply to :-)

I knew about lyme..a lot of folk on the British thyroid board have been looking at it..the depression is one part of it.
There's a doc in England (or probably a few) who is into treating it I think.
http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroiduk/messages?msg=2092.1 (I think)
It's a long treatment ..like months or years..and I don't recall any real successes but maybe I didn't follow it enough...or maybe the treatment isn't over as yet.

I tried doxycycline for 6 weeks myself this year..continuing for a few weeks when was in Britain. (my excuse was a malaria preventative, when I was in a high malaria area) I felt terrific on it after a while, but in the end my teeth seemed to be going brown and cracking..not sure if it was related or not..but I stopped.
Ya know what..the only time in my life I had a clear nasal passage was when I was in Britain..so is this the doxycycline or maybe just the eucalypts? Was interesting anyway. I was put on antihistamines at birth to allow me to feed :)
Nasal passages reblocked about 1 hr after I landed back in Oz.


Re Strep..yes, I always suspected it would..I personally blame the "don't give an antibiotic until we see if you can fight it doctrine"..(gee penicillin is all that is needed )
Could rave on about what this has caused for a long time..but I'm sure everyone would think I'm nuts.(hmm guess they already do?)
I've been waiting for medicine field to wake up..I suspect they might be a little?

also similar thing for psoriasis, maybe a lot of autoimmune problems..works similar to rheumatic fever...
hey that doesn't exist in our modern society? It still exists in outback Oz amongst aboriginal communities, and they have tried vaccinating all the kids with penicillin injections ..only one problem with this..the injections are painful and after the first couple the kids wake up and disappear into the bush when they see the docs coming...docs/researchers haven't heard of a reward system it appears.
If the do come down with rheumatic fever..from the strep throat, then they get treated with penicillin shots every month for years to prevent any outbreaks and it seems to work for those willing to undergo the injections.

In my theory at least it works similarly.
Somehow the bacteria must allow the viruses etc to be worse..and when I go to the docs I just get ..its a virus..nothing I can do, and yet, if I treat with penicillin within the first day or two, I don't come down with any virus or depression..or worsening of autoimmune, daughter doesn't break out in psoriasis..don't get the very high temps or the arthritic like pain(with her it was called psoriatic arthritis) thru body or the depression...nor isn't this strange??
If untreated it last months.

I know bacteriaphages aren't supposed to get humans ..but would this maybe be what is happening? or is it that our immune system just gets weakened?

All I know is that if the bacteria in the strep throat don't get the penicillin , and the temp goes high ..then it all starts. With my daughter it all began at age 10- with very high temps for a week or so..then the rashes started..then the arthritis etc..then they said it was arthritis. After the first time, comeback outbreaks(called its just a virus by docs) happen fairly often..and if immediately treated with penicillin all is fine,, if not..the spots, aches and pain, fatigue, depression flares again..lasts months....no obvious infection there..and yet the penicillin works to prevent it.
By the time the strep throat looks bad enough to treat..its too late.

and I know we all have strep there all the time.

I've put myself on penicillin about 3 times this year..and stayed well, instead of the months of illness...including the depression. Wish I could qualify for the monthly injections for a trial for a couple of years.

Well all this is only my (probably wrong) opinion and what I've observed over the past 8 years or so.
Jan (hope this makes sense..I feel less literate than usual at present)

> also a book on chronic fatigue and the limbic system..
>
> http://www.haworthpress.com/store/product.asp?sku=0178
>
> Ray


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