Posted by Larry Hoover on July 29, 2004, at 6:58:57
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog and CFS?- Larry, posted by KaraS on July 25, 2004, at 20:38:01
> > > > I have never been diagnosed with CFS, but I had mono among other viruses that have had this effect on me.
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> > > The Epstein-Barr virus is probably totally underestimated by current medical wisdom. No other virus is more closely linked to CFS.
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> > I thought that was what the medical community considered in the early years of CFS but that they are much less inclined to see E-B virus as the cause these days.
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> > Kara
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> > > > Again, sorry to interrupt. I hope all goes well for you.
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> > > > God bless,
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> > > > Simus
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> > > Aaaackkk! I'm interrupting, not you.
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> > > Lar
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> Also, Larry, I just did a little research on Dr. Pall and found an article at ImmuneSupport.com. I found something interesting:
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> "Possibly the most intriguing such mechanism relates to the widespread use of vitamin B12 injections in treatment of CFS (3). Two forms of vitamin B12 are being used here, hydroxocobalamin, which is a nitric oxide scavenger and cyanocobalamin, which is converted to hydroxocobalamin by Pall human cells (3). These observations suggest that the nitric oxide/peroxynitrite proposed mechanism for CFS makes useful predictions for effective treatment."
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> "Cobalamin used in chronic fatigue syndrome therapy is a nitric oxide scavenger."
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> Here's the address:
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> http://www.immunesupport.com/library/showarticle.cfm?ID=2976
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> There it is again. B3 involved again (along with mitochondria) for CFS this time. I have been taking 1 gm methylcobalamin some mornings sublingually but it definitely looks like I should increase that if it is related to CFS, adrenal fatigue, allergy/histamine response and it's involved with restting your clock. A common thread in so many of my maladies. Coincidence? I think not (but what the hell do I know?)
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> KaraJust a quickie response. Dr. Pall is a Dr. of biochemistry. He developed a testable model of fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome which involves severe oxidative stress, mediated by peroxynitrite. His faculty link is up now. http://molecular.biosciences.wsu.edu/Faculty/pall.html
There are a couple of links to articles he wrote, on that page. If you scoot around within his links, I think you can find other links to more articles, too. Or, if you google Pall peroxynitrite, you'll get a good number of hits.
I corresponded with Dr. Pall a couple of years back, but the stuff is on that other hard drive. :-/ I posted some of it on Usenet. Maybe you can find the nutritional recommendations he gave me, or I'll look for them another time.
Lar
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