Posted by McPac on December 14, 2003, at 21:42:40
In reply to Re: All Hail The Incomparable Tryptophan!!!!!! » McPac, posted by Ron Hill on December 13, 2003, at 11:55:11
Do you think that the effect is sustainable over the long term?
Hi Ron......well, here's the deal.....I have NOT been taking the trypto on ANY kind of REGULAR basis.....due to being on an ssri (Lexapro) and lithium, and due to this possible serotonin syndrome #!@$! (<swearing) crap, I don't want to risk taking the trypto on any kind of frequent, regular basis....how do you like that for luck---ANY of the other supps that I've been taking I am able to take with my meds without any real interactions...and, of course, those supps don't do much for me....but then I find ONE supp that REALLY does make a significant difference and I have this serotonin syndrome $%#@! to worry about...so I only got the trypto to experiment with a bit....when I got the trypto, I had been on the Lexapro for a little while BUT it had NOT kicked in for the full effect yet..I was NOT feeling too good at the time of my first trypto dose (depressed, physical nervous anxiety)....I was NOT feeling very good....I took 1 dose, about a scoop (about 1,200 mg) of the trypto that Larry had a link for (the "SeaBiscuit" brand, lol)....not long at all after I took that 1st dose (on an empty stomach with some orange juice), I really did feel a very nice anti-dep effect (my mood was LIFTED) and I felt much less nervous...it was VERY noticeable and significant....I think many times on these boards you get folks having placebo effects or folks "stretching" things (i.e., I took some Vitamin C last night and today I can see so much better or I noticed that when I take additional calcium that I feel totally confident but if I skip a dose I become agoraphobic again and can't leave the house...lol)....or many folks will only have very mild problems and when they say that a certain supp totally wiped out their symptoms, well, there wasn't much to 'wipe out' to begin with (and the supp may not even had ANYTHING to do with it being 'wiped out', more psychological)....anyway, I sure as H#ll wasn't expecting the trypto to have the significant effect that it did and I certainly wasn't thinking that 1 lousy dose was going to do much of anything...so I didn't want to become too excited...I asked myself if I was pulling a 'placebo' effect on myself---but the difference in the 'before and after' was just TOO significant (started to feel a GOOD bit better after 2-3 hours...I thought THAT was 'impossible')...I had to see if this was reproducable...I waited a while, perhaps a week or so, making sure that I once again felt depressed and felt the physical nervousness return..in other words, I waited to let the same symptoms return again...another dose...again the same positive, NOTICEABLE effects....I remember thinking, "I DON'T believe this!"....I did the SAME thing again and again (spaced out)with the same results....my other supps have pretty much been a BUST...sure, they may be doing very good things inside my body but I really don't FEEL too much of a positive, noticeable difference (I do like magnesium glycinate and fish oil...but NOTHING, H#ll ALL of my supps COMBINED haven't come close to what I can FEEL that the trypto does....but, again, I CAN'T take the trypto daily...and I certainly do NOT have any idea if the trypto would CONTINUE to give me these positive effects LONG TERM...or that the trypto would be enough ON IT's OWN....so I'm really not overly excited...yes, I can't believe it had such a strong, positive effect but it's not like I'm ready to stop my AD and totally replace it with trypto...maybe I could, maybe I couldn't (I'm not ready to try THAT).
How much do you take?
>>>>> I've ONLY done it in this 'experimental' type way...NOT on any regular basis.
You take it on an empty stomach, correct?
>>>>>>>>>> Yep, usually with orange juice ( but the trypto does NOT mix well AT ALL! You may want to stir it in some applesauce instead???
Does one dose provide effectiveness for the entire day, or do you take multiple doses?
>>>>>>>>> Hard to answer this due to being on other meds also...1 dose seemed to make a difference for about 2, maybe 3 days (strong initial effect, gradually lessening may be the way to put it...would be much easier to answer that if not for other meds...but it was NOT some 2 or 3 hour short-lived effect for me...1 dose lasted a good while...but I just don't know, if I were med-free, if the dose would perform similarly or not.
What time of day do you take the dose(s)?
>>>>>>> Again, only in this experimental type way...not very often....I believe each time was either the evening or night.
I ask these questions because it has been on my list for a couple months to try it.
I would have tried it already if I could run down to the local nutritional store and buy it off the shelf, but I haven't got around to ordering it online. I need to do so. I plan to conduct a trial of tryptophan (probably 500 mg - 1000 mg/day) by itself taken on an empty stomach.>>>>>>>>>> I tried taking only about 1/2 a scoop (about 600mg's or so) and it still had a very nice effect.
I also plan to conduct a trial of tryptophan and tyrosine.
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I've read about taking both....but I only did the trypto.
Thank you for posting your results.
>>>>>>>No problem Ron....I'm sorry that I can't give really great, exact answers....what I can say, without a doubt, is that the trypto, in these few, repeated trials, DEFINITELY made a STRONG, NOTICEABLE and SIGNIFICANT difference in my symptoms....that is FOR SURE....and I really was NOT expecting that to happen, NOT to that degree and certainly not after single doses.....of course, what DOES remain in question is would it do it long term for me or would it lose its ability? could it provide ENOUGH of an AD effect and anti-anxiety on its own, without other meds? many other questions I can ponder also. It also seemed D@mned good at knocking out the agitated bipolar-type agitation for me....but because of that F$%#@!$ serotonin syndrome crap, I really can't utilize it too much...I HAVE meds which do what I need...whether or not I EVER see if trypto can replace them remains to be seen....take care!!!
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