Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2013, at 10:08:16
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on December 22, 2013, at 23:58:12
> > > But be it as it may be, I would like for you to post the statement there to show that the statement by the poster is not what this forum condones and your statement would also show that you are repudiating any libel toward religions that do not have their agenda centered in Christ as being a bad reason as the original statement in question could promote.
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> OK, it's nice when we can agree on something.
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> > We can now continue to another post.
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> > > Lou's burden of 'saving souls' may be a treacherous form of slavery - a burden seemingly imposed by God himself
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20101117/msgs/971092.html
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> > The statements puts down Jews as a subset of readers could think that the statement is portraying Jews as an inferior group as that the God that the Jews give service and worship to imposes a form of treachery to the worshipers as that the Jews are in slavery because they give service and worship to God. The statement by the poster is false and could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings against Jews and decrease the respect , regard and confidence in which I am held as a Jew and other Jews also.
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> Wait, what you heard him saying was Judaism might be a form of slavery?
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> BobMr. Hsiung,
You wrote,[...what you heard him saying is that Judaism might be a form of slavery?...]
It is much more than that. For what can be seen is plainly visible. Let us look at the whole statement:
[...I used the phrase to imply that Lou's burden of 'saving souls' may be a treacherous form of slavery-a burden seemingly imposed by God Himself...]. The poster was commenting on why he posted a subject line that read:
[...who brought you out of the land of Egypt...].
Then there is the poster's phrase, {...a treacherous form of slavery imposed by God Himself...}.
What can be seen is the libel to Jews by the word {treacherous}. The word means {a betrayal} or {deception}. What can be thought by a subset of Jewish readers in particular but not limited to, is that the God that the Jews give service and worship to, that were delivered out of slavery in Egypt, is a God that can't be trusted, for what the poster wrote could mean that the God in question imposed a form of slavery upon those that He delivered from slavery which was an act of deception to enslave them. This is a false statement here by the poster and could lead a subset of readers to feel put down and could include non-Jews as well. We Jews trust the God that we give service and worship to and He has not betrayed us.
The questions that I use here in these posts that a subset of readers could see you as validating the libel toward the Jews by the fact that the anti-Semitic statements remain unsanctioned, are:
A. Can the statement bring out hatred of the Jews or me as a Jew in a subset of reader's minds?
B. Can it be humiliating to Jews that read the statement in question?
C. Can the statement be seen, since it is unsanctioned, that you and up to six deputies are validating the libel toward the Jews?
D. Is the statement a part of a deliberate, hostile, behavior to falsely discredit Jews and put down Jews and me as a Jew here and humiliate me, by you and your deputies?
E. Are there posts by you and/or your deputies and any members that are in concert with you that a subset of readers could consider to be soliciting others to turn against me?
F. Could the anti-Semitic statements that put down/accuse Jews, that could be seen by a subset of readers as an extreme form of psychological abuse, cause depression and increased suicidal ideation is a subset of Jewish children that read here?
Those are some of the criteria that I use to bring these to our discussion. And as long as the statements remain without sanction, a subset of readers could think that you are validating the libel toward the Jews contained in the statements. That could foster and encourage others to write the same against the Jews, and me as Jew, for you say that you do what will be good for this community as a whole and that readers are to try to trust you and that one match could start a forest fire. IMHO, a subset of readers could think that if there is a statement that puts down Jews , and you will not post a repudiation to it, them they could think that it is supportive to post what could put down Jews.
I am asking for you to accept the opportunity that you have now to post in the thread where the statement in question appears, that it is not conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of the community and that it is not in accordance with your policy to not post what could put down those of other faiths.
Lou PIlder
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1050116
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20131217/msgs/1056875.html