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Re: It has gone far beyond theoretical now » 10derheart

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 8, 2013, at 21:32:46

In reply to Re: It has gone far beyond theoretical now » Dr. Bob, posted by 10derheart on July 2, 2013, at 13:31:10

> Okay, so you are trying to make some analogy between a psychiatrist/patient relationship and the relationship between you as an administrator and all the posters of Babble, correct?
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> Since obviously you are no psychiatrist when posting here and we are definitely *not* your patients (you and I would be a poor fit, I'm afraid, and I would have to seek another provider). But I just don't get it. These boards are not the therapy space. The analogy does not work for me. And the thing is, apparently you don't believe in your own rules any more, rules that served this place well for years. IMO, Babble is utterly dysfunctional without the safety provided by you and/or deputies. This is no place for experiments or pushing people to use their precious emotional resources to fend off a drumbeat of responses telling them they are poisoning their children and that their children may become mass murderers or kill themselves. If you think otherwise, I don't know what to say.
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> How is this response by you helpful? It is always all so obfuscated when you do this. Can't you speak plainly? It is so very, very unhelpful in my opinion. We are not writing a book. We are not trying to think of the next clever comparison. We are not trying to see who can put the most flowery words together. We just want an open, welcome environment without put downs, accusations and insensitive rants. People *know* "real" life is not that way and they will have to cope without a pdoc or anyone else "making the problem go away." It is HARD. But do you really want them to completely have to do this here, under the strain of THIS kind of posting? Does PB have to be an exact replica of real life? I hope not. I used to come here for refuge.
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> You expect a mom to stay focused of her child's treatment and hearing from others with support when inundated with implications or bald-face assertions she is a drug pusher and poinsoner, who is in concert with pdocs in possibly killing her child? If so, I guess this "dialog" (ha!) is over since that is incomprehensible.
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> Lou posts more and more accusations, in clear violation of the most basic of your rules from the beginning, and yet on you go, oblivious to being accused personally of all kinds of things that are profoundly uncivil, and allowing your former deputies and more importantly, innocent, vulnerable posters to be accused of hatred...and not just some general, overall hatred, or even hatred of him, but of hatred of JEWS (absurd and utterly unfounded), racism, child abuse and neglect, and so much more I cannot recall.
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> YOU CAN'T RELY ON POSTERS TO MANAGE THIS. YOU are the administrator. You set up civility rules, and those very parameters drew some of us here, or at least kept us long term because of the prohibitions on bullying and the safety aspect. Now, you seem to want a jungle. What options do we have in this environment? Even ignoring and silence has no effect. The abusive writing still appears, again and again and again and again....
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> ^&**&^%^%&!!!!
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> I would appreciate it if you would not change my subject lines, either. I get more than enough of this here. You can state your thoughts in the body of the post, can't you?

10,
You wrote,[...Lou posts..accusations....(members) accused of hatred...hatred of JEWS....racism,chikd abuse and neglect, and so much more...].
Since there are not citations of your claims here about me, readers could think that they are true. If there are such posts that you write about me that I have posted here, I would like for you to post the URLs for those posts so that I can, and readers can, see the context. Then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly. If I do not have that opportunity, then I think that there is the potential for me to be put in a false light and could induce hostil feelings toward me and decrease the regard, respect and confidence in which I am held.
Lou

 

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