Posted by Lou PIlder on November 20, 2012, at 10:18:42
In reply to Lou's reply-dhaphule » Dinah, posted by Lou PIlder on November 20, 2012, at 10:03:49
> > > And the fire of hatred toward the Jews is still burning here.
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> > I find that unbelievably offensive, Lou. There's no fire of hatred burning towards Jews here. This is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about.
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> > And I don't know what on earth gave you the idea that Dr. Bob has any notions at all about Jews. I've never known him to have any particular feelings about any religion at all, or to show any particular familiarity with any religion. I have no private knowledge of his personal beliefs, but I'd tend to believe it's not a prime concern to him if he's religious at all.
> >
> > Moreover, to my knowledge, while Dr. Bob deletes posts from blocked posters, and occasionally removes private information from posts, he doesn't alter posts otherwise.
> >
> > I suppose I believe you believe that. But that's part of the civility rules, Lou. You can believe whatever you want, true or false. But you're not allowed to make accusations - no matter how true you believe them to be.
> >
> > But Lou, have you not noticed that Dr. Bob is ignoring everyone's notifications? Mine included? He's not monitoring the boards! I suppose it's barely possible that he might deign to honor us with his presence on an irregular basis, and that might keep us somewhat in line. But he's not routinely replying to anyone's notifications. I've pretty much quit trying. Learned helplessness.
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> > Lou, I'm giving you the credit and dignity of holding you to the same standards as everyone else, no matter how unlikely I consider your beliefs on Dr. Bob or anything else to be.
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> > But Lou, his prohibitions against telling everyone who doesn't believe as you do that they're wrong or evil or going to h*ll is not limited to the Jewish faith. Plenty of Christians have been told that as well. As have Democrats and Republicans. His rules were made to keep divisive topics like religion and politics to interfere with the primary purpose of the board.
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> > Really, Lou. I wasn't feeling overly fond of Dr. Bob, and you've made me not only defend him, but actually like and support him again.
> >
> > This is what I meant by pragmatism. You started out with one goal but achieved a different one - Dr. Bob's goal.
> >
> > We're all your brethren Lou. Being your brethren doesn't mean we have to agree with everything you say. Perhaps you could use the phrase "followers" instead.
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> Dinah and friends,
> As long as posts are allowed to stand here that could arouse antisemitic feelings, which could provide the fuel to stoke the furnace of hatred toward the Jews, then members here could be swayed to have hostile feelings or opinions toward Jews. This is all because Mr Hsiung states here that support takes precedence so that if a statement is allowed to stand, others could think that the statement is supportive. And worse than that, Mr Hsiung states that he does in his thinking what will be good for this community as a whole and he will appreciate it if you try to accept what he does here.
> The hostility that could be fostered toward the Jews by the nature of antisemitic statments being allowed to stand here, has historical parallels that Mr Hsiung has posted a prohibition to me that prevents me from posting what IMHHHO could reveal how hostility toward the Jews can turn into hatred toward the Jews, easily. You see, hostility can produce hate. And when Judaism and other faths that are not centered on Jesus are allowed to be published here as being in the catagory of the "worst", then the fuel needed for hatred to be aroused toward the Jews and those others in the statement, is made available here. The following post has the insult to Judaism and Islam and other faiths that are in the catagory stated in the post, that to this day allows others to think that what it says is supportive here. And I do not consider there to be any excsue or rationale or whatever you want to call it, to allow the statement to stand. And as long as members and Mr Hsiung allow it to stand, I consider there to be great danger to the Jews and the others catorgized in the post, for the same statement in question has resulted in 1 1/2 million Jewish children to me systematically slaughtered because they were Jews. And if hate could have the potential to be aroused by the post in question here, and is supportive here, then (redacted by respondent).
> Here is the post. Look at the second list as the "worst" and then look at #5 in that list. You want to support Mr Hsiung here in him allowing the statement to stand? If so, would you take responsibility if someone has hatred toward the Jews induced into them by reading the statement here, that kills a Jew or Islamic person or others that are in the people that belong to a faith that the member says is in the "worst", and you did not rise up against the allowing of the statement to stand?
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/faith/20040729/msgs/378930.html
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> correction to link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20040729/msgs/378930.html
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