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Re: A solution in search of a problem » Willful

Posted by jane d on December 3, 2010, at 6:46:25

In reply to Re: A solution in search of a problem, posted by Willful on December 2, 2010, at 15:39:17

> who is now completely confused as to whether we have a major problem responsible for the loss of valuable posters and the apparent dying of babble as a place for connection and communication, or a minor problem not worth discussing.

I'm not sure it's either of those. I certainly didn't mean to suggest it wasn't worth discussing.

> didnt we have weeks, if not more of posters being engaged in developing an idea of self-governance and getting interested and maybe even excited about it--

Did we? We certainly had a lot of posts. And I think there was some real discussion buried in there. But it also seemed (to me) as though many of the posts just talked past each other. I kept finding myself reading a post and then a reply and feeling that the they were talking about two totally different things and neither poster realized it. For example, we had posts referring to "civility buddies" but describing a council even after civility buddies had been explicitly defined. I'd like to see the discussions continue until it's clear just what we are all agreeing or disagreeing about.

>I mean now suddenly it seems that this was all a lot of talk for or about nothing.

So far as I know the discussion is still open.

> Or are you just questioning one reason that's been given for this whole thing?

Not *just* that but I do question some of the overstatements that have been made about blocks. That they are frequent. They're not. That they are always (or often) capricious and unreasonable. I recently looked at a full years worth and, while I personally would draw the lines differently, that's not true either. That everybody who has ever left did so because they think the block policy is too strict. I can also remember people leaving because Bob wasn't strict enough. Etc, etc.

Is that any clearer?

Jane


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