Posted by jane d on December 3, 2010, at 6:01:18
In reply to Re: A solution in search of a problem » jane d, posted by Solstice on December 2, 2010, at 9:14:11
> > > .... To begin with, blocks are not as frequent as it sometimes feels.
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> ? Perhaps because there are people here who are distressed by thge current system? Including many (think Scott) who are suprememly Civil and don't find themselves ever in trouble, but are bothered by the stifling effect of the current system? And.. I'm not sure what I could have said that provoked your first sentence there. Statements (like mine, which you posted above) taken out of context can be a problem.
I don't agree that your statements were taken out of context. I don't, however, have any problem with your asserting that your words did not accurately reflect your intentions and clarifying them. And, while I thought the context of the above statement was pretty clear I do see how I could have spelled it out a little more clearly for you. Put simply, I was commenting on your stating that we had a big problem affecting many people when lobbying for the change you want to see but then, when someone pointed out potential problems with your suggestion, claiming the problems weren't important because your suggestion wouldn't affect many people. Do you see the problem in using two different fact sets for different aspects of the same proposal?
> I think you wholly misunderstand Bob's proposal, as well as the reasons for my opposition to disclosure of individual Council members' votes on releasing blocks.
I don't think I misunderstood either one. I didn't agree with it. Do you really believe all disagreement is simply a result of misunderstanding? However I think that your suggestion for an amendment to Bob's proposal should be discussed separately for clarity's sake and I'll try to respond to that separately later.
> Perhaps you failed to read all of my posts?
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20101201/msgs/972062.htmlPerhaps I did. But I certainly tried. :)
> I think your statement here may arise from confusion about the difference between a dictator.....
> Additionally, you seem to misunderstand Bobs proposal.
Again. I disagreed. It's not the same thing at all.
> > > And if people here start throwing fire at the Council members who have made the sacrifice to lead and serve, then this Community deserves to be treated like a bunch of little children, including uncivil posters being blocked for however long and using whatever formula is satisfactory to Bob.
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> > Wow! That's an interesting paragraph if you try substituting "Bob" for "Council members". So dissenters are little children? Or only future dissenters?
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> You seem to have misunderstood. My comment was not only taken out of context, but also distorted to mean things that are not even implied. I was Not referring to dissenters in general. I was referring Only to those who complain loudly about not liking Bob-rule and all the power he alone has, but who refuse to participate in giving an alternative a fair chance. Do you see the difference? ....Again. I'm happy to see you amend your original statement even though I don't agree it was taken out of context. But your argument still seems problematical. It still "sounds" as though you are saying "my way or the highway". What about people who feel there should be a different approach?
> Solstice.. who is confused about the anger directed at her because she supports a proposal Bob made to address a matter that has been a Huge problem at Babble, eating up enormous amounts of energy and space.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I don't think that disagreeing with some of your ideas equals anger directed at you. I'm terribly sorry that you do. I'm not however so sorry about it that I will now keep silent if you say something I don't agree with.
Jane
Note. I don't believe anything here was quoted out of context either however to see the original all you need to do is click on the link at the top of the post next to "in reply to".
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