Posted by jane d on December 1, 2010, at 14:37:42
In reply to Elders Council - Necessary for self-governance, posted by Solstice on December 1, 2010, at 0:30:03
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> .... To begin with, blocks are not as frequent as it sometimes feels.I'm glad to see you acknowlege that at last. So why is this Council important again?
>Also, the Council members are more emotionally protected because they are part of a group. That protection is the reason I am not in favor of Council having to post individual votes. An unpardoned poster will never know who did, or didn't vote for their reprieve. Perhaps for accountability's sake Bob should be aware of who votes for what, but I think posting that data for everyone would undermine the insulation Council members will need to feel better about serving.
Protected from accountability for their decisions? In my own experience anonymous groups do things that the individuals in them would never think of doing. In another post you referred to this as a dictatorship by Bob. Aren't you just proposing substituting another group of dictators? An even less accountable group if you have your way about secrecy (which I'll note is also currently only your proposal - not Bob's).
I notice you failed to address the question of the victims of blocked posters. Do you really believe that there are none?
> Babble has been kicking and screaming for self-governance for Ever.Has it really? SOME members here have certainly. Others have sometimes thought it would be better under THEIR governance (I admit to being fond of that idea myself but I haven't found many takers for appointing ME dictator. Go figure.) Seen in that light Bob might be a fairly good compromise.
I actually have a fair amount of sympathy for the idea of self governance. But there are sites already doing just that and I suspect that most people who find that critically important have already sought them out. People who remain at this site have already voted in a way.
> And if people here start throwing fire at the Council members who have made the sacrifice to lead and serve, then this Community deserves to be treated like a bunch of little children, including uncivil posters being blocked for however long and using whatever formula is satisfactory to Bob.
Wow! That's an interesting paragraph if you try substituting "Bob" for "Council members". So dissenters are little children? Or only future dissenters?Jane
who is still confused about why we need an incredibly elaborate process set up for a minor problem
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