Posted by Dr. Bob on December 1, 2010, at 3:39:09
In reply to Re: Elders Council - Necessary for self-governance, posted by alexandra_k on December 1, 2010, at 2:34:55
Hi, everyone,
Regarding the proposal itself:
> Maybe we could consider doing it as more of an inverse 'Supreme Court' process where forum members nominate Council Members, and you as administrator confirms them? ... since they are chosen by you from those nominated.. they still aren't quite your minions. ... And to add another comment regarding the Bob's Minon's factor: I think the power they have over block length decisions is what defines them as NOT your minions, regardless of how they got into that position.
> Council is a group of people.. not just one person. It would be harder for the friends of an unpardoned poster to know where to aim their fire. ... That protection is the reason I am not in favor of Council having to post individual votes. ... Perhaps for accountability's sake Bob should be aware of who votes for what
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> SolsticeThe idea would be for them to represent (and therefore be accountable to) posters, not me. So it seems to me that posters, not me, would need to elect them and know how they vote.
That said, they'd be free to abstain if they'd be the only vote against lifting a block.
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Regarding running/serving:
> I've never ran for anything in my life and am happy to have it remain so.
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> DinahMay I ask why you've never run for anything?
> it does take a genuinely highly competitive spirit for elections to appeal to a nominated candidate.
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> SolsticePosters might run because they're competitive, but they might also run despite not being competitive -- because they want to contribute.
The vote totals wouldn't have to be posted.
5 candidates could run "unopposed". Someone who didn't want to risk running and not being elected could withdraw if a 6th candidate were nominated.
> I'm too rejection-sensitive to want to "run" for a position that I found fraught with peril in the past.
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> ggThe peril Dinah mentioned, or a different one?
> I am just glad
> That people are watching out for themselves.
> I hate to see people get hurt.
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> muffledI don't want anyone to get hurt, either. Like deputies, they should be able to take some heat.
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> The wheels are turning.
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> something that requires posters to do something that they simply will not do> Is Bob willing to relinquish his autocracy?
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> Sometimes he says things that suggest he is...
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> alexandra_kI can be willing to relinquish power -- which would come with responsibility -- but if posters simply will not assume it, we'll keep spinning our wheels. But it'll be more clear why we're stuck.
Bob
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