Posted by Lou Pilder on December 6, 2006, at 10:48:07
In reply to Lou's response t aspectsof deput/.member gg's post, posted by Lou Pilder on December 6, 2006, at 10:43:28
> > > >Since that definition now includes ... posting a link to a blog
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> > > There's no rule or interpretation of a rule that says one cannot post a link to a blog. Again, the issue is if the material in the blog is civil or not. The blog that Dinah posted about specifically is one that contains material that would be deemed uncivil if posted on the board.
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> > > > then for someone to determine before hand if something is uncivil, they could include in their thinking those two criteria, would they not?
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> > > I suppose they could, but it seems simpler to me to determine whether the material is civil or not versus trying to apply every example of every decision to one question.
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> > > > If anyone can post here as to that they are sure that I can send it to him >without sending it to someone else first<,{and post here what they use to say that they are sure of that}, that is the question that I have here.
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> > > I'll take you up on this. Yes, you can send it to Dr. Bob. Frankly, he has no way of knowing whether you sent it to anyone else beforehand or not. And if you simply must have his ruling versus trusting anyone else, I'm certain you can send it to him. I would not expect a reply in the timeframe you seem to prefer, however. My guess is, Dr. Bob asked you to send it to someone else first because he knows he really does not have the time to get to it soon. Also, he supports the use of civility buddies for just this kind of thing.
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> > > What am I using to base this statement on? Confidence in my common sense.
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> > > > For I am at this time still unsure if Dr. Hsiung has rescinded his request , or if it is a requirement to me, to send it to someone else first before he will review it.
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> > > I'm certain it is not a "requirement". I'm certain that if you were to send it to him for review, you would not get in any kind of trouble for sending it or face any administrative action, unless there is some agreement in place between you and Dr. Bob of which I am unaware. I took his post asking you to send it to someone else first as his preference and as advice, not as some new requirement just for you.
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> > > > There is a statement here that says that you can, but I do not see where there is a statement that says that the request,or requirement to me to send it to someone else first has been dropped and that they are sure of that and why they are sure.
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> > > Stop signs do not also say, "Go" and yet we go anyway when appropriate. I doubt you'll ever see any kind of post "rescinding" his request to you to send it to someone else first.
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> > > Is there some reason you don't wish to send it to anyone else first? You've had all this time, afterall.
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> > > > What harm, if any, could there be for this to be made clear to me here as to if I have to or not send the request to another first? If anyone thinks that there could be some harm done to someone if that question is answered to me here, could you post in this thread what person(s) it could harm and why?
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> > > There would not be any harm to anyone else if someone clarified this to your satisfaction. I doubt that's what could be standing in the way of you getting the clarification you desire.
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> > > Hope this helps. I've answered to the best of my ability based on my experience both as a poster and as a deputy. Please consider this response as a response from a deputy trying to help someone understand the rules.
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> > > gg
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> > Friends,
> > In the post above by deputy/member gardenergirl, she writes,[...you can send it to (Dr. Hsiung)..he has no way of knowing if you sent it to someone else beforehand or not...].
> > I ask,
> > A. Could not Dr. Hsiung ask me after I send it to him as to if and what person I sent the post to before I sent it to him?
> > B. If he did, in your opinion, is deputy/member gg's statement to me here, in >any< way whatsoever, a suggestion to me to deceive Dr.Hsiung? If you take the position that it is not, could you post in this thread why you say that it is not?
> > Then the deputy/member writes,[..I am certain you can send it to him...] I ask,
> > C. By what authority is seen from the deputy/member to make that >certain<?
> > Then the deputy/ member writes,[...my guess is...
> > D I ask, why guess?
> > Lou
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> > Friends,
> The deputy/member gardenergirl writes here,[... I doubt that you will see (Dr. Hsiung) rescind his request (or requirement?) to you to send it to someone else first...]
> I ask;
> A. What could be the rational for anyone >doubting< tht Dr. Hsiung will not rescind the request(or requirement?) to me?
> B. Could there not be a good and just cause for Dr. Hsiung to post to me that I can send the post to him without asking someone else >first<?
> Then the deputy/member writes,[...is there a reason that you do not want to send it to someone else first?...]
> Yes, there is to me a great reason to have me want to send it to Dr. Hsiung without the request (or requirement?) to send it to him first. But I ask;
> A. What , in your opinions here, do you have as to why this is not by DR. Hsiung made clear to me per my request for clarification, as to if I can send it to him without the request (or requirement?) to send it to someone else first? I would like to know one way or the other with certainty so that I can post within the rules here. After all, is it not Dr. Hsiung that made the request(or requirement) to me? I am only asking him about if he will allow me to send it to him >without< any conditions or not. Is that, in your opinions, too much to ask? If so, could you post here why? Is it, in your opinioins, >civil< and/or >supportive< for the owner/moderator that makes the rules to leave this question at this time unanswered as to what he has written to me?
> If Dr. Hsiung was to rescind any request (or requirement/) that I send it to someone else >first<, then this discussion could reach its logical conclusion. I could either have my post determined by him, or submit to the condition that have to ask someone else first or something else. But at this time, I am unsure as to if I can or can not send the post ahead for his determination before posting it or not.
> Lou
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Friends,
There is a great reason for me to want to be allowed to send the post to Dr. Hsiung without sending it to someone else >first<.
This is the correction to one in the previous post of that nature that may have come out differently.
Thanks,
Lou
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:706108
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