Posted by alexandra_k on October 7, 2006, at 0:12:23
In reply to Re: reasons that sound identical, but aren't » alexandra_k, posted by Jost on October 6, 2006, at 23:44:57
> The problem may be that symbolic or mathematical logic doesn't apply perfectly in the realm of ordinary talk...
Sometimes it can be tricky... The whole point of logic is that it makes ones logical (and ontological) committments clear so we are better able to assess claims and arguments.
> So my explanation of not liking pickles may be 'pickles are sour":
> When sour cherry pies come along-- you may say I can't like them because I don't like sour things.
> I might, to provide some logical consistency, have to go back and say, I don't like pickles because I don't like things that are sour, and have no sweetness.
> Of course, I also hate sweet pickles. They may be sweet and sour. And I definitely don't like Sweet and Sour Pork-- esp. the sauce.
> At that point I may again, in fact, have to refine further my definition of how sweetness and sourness can in fact be understood so as to rationalize my claims. This can be an endless process of the evolution of a complex set of beliefs.Welcome to philosophy :-)
Has kept people busy for centuries :-)
I think there is a way out with flavour being emergent.
Though...
1) Do you like beer?
2) Did you like your first sip of beer?
I'm hoping the answer to 1 is yes and the answer to 2 is no. If the example doesn't work for you substitute.
The point is... Did the beer taste different or did it taste the same but your response to the taste was different?
Taste...
Might be phenomenologically brute.
(Some people are led to that)
> You might think, then, that whoever disliked small groups in the previous context, may be considering other factors now, as primary, when thinking about the small group. Therefore, the different assessment.If that is the case I'd like to hear why it is that people don't like small boards. For the future, you see.
> Can I ask, though, do you think there is an explanation that someone could believe that would make this small group okay, even if the other small group didn't seem okay to them?I'm sure there is an explanation floating somewhere in logical space just waiting to be grasped, sure.
But what is interesting is that reasons are supposed to *cause* behaviour, not just justify it in hindsight...
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