Posted by Larry Hoover on March 8, 2006, at 10:13:25
In reply to Re: Am I the only one? » Larry Hoover, posted by littleone on March 7, 2006, at 20:40:44
> No, you're not alone. There are others. I'm sorry I haven't stood up with you and added my voice.
Not sorry, I trust. Proud. Thank you for your courage. In the army, they give medals for this.
> I find conflict very difficult and try to avoid it at all costs.
And all the others see is silence.
> Dr Bob, I know that Larry's posts have been rather passionate and emotional, but that doesn't mean that his request isn't reasonable. To be honest, I simply can't understand why you *wouldn't* implement it.
:-)
> It's already something many of us do out of consideration of others. And when people don't put warnings on and you stumble across your trigger unexpectedly, well it just destroys you. I guess destroy is the wrong word because you do eventually get back up again, but that's what it feels like at the time. And getting back up again is so hard and emotional and draining and ... well it's just awful.
And that energy could well be put to other important aspects of existence. And it steals time from you. The calendar advances, and you're still occupied with regaining your footing.
> And all that can be avoided just by having a little warning.
Doesn't it seem so simple? A little warning. Choice. Informed choice. And consent. Informed consent.
> Obviously it won't make you perfectly safe, you'll probably encounter your triggers in other places as well. But at least it gives you a better chance of being able to pick the time and place that you address your trigger issues. Instead of having it thrust upon you by someone who'll probably never know what hellhole they've just dropped you into.
And they remain naive until we speak, right?
> I think just having one warning to cover everything is a bit redundant. So much stuff would be flagged that you'd probably end up reading it all anyway.And thus, the thematic clues in the subject line, to accompany the generic red flag.
I think it's hyperbole, though, to suggest that red flags will dominate the boards.
> I think having descriptive flags are much better. I would suggest:
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> Suicide trigger
> Self Injury trigger
> Abuse trigger (includes sexual, physical, verbal, ritual abuse)Yes, something involving 'another' is good theme warning. Family of origin? <brainstorming>
> Violence trigger
> Substance Abuse trigger
>
> I personally have other triggers, but I don't believe they would be common enough to warrent their own trigger warning.I think that is a very important aspect that we do need to collectively understand. My other triggers are my business, and mine alone. I think there are generic triggers, however, and they are about humanity, about being human at its basic levels, like Maslow's needs hierarchy.
> I do think that people need to take responsibility for themselves and learn what triggers them in particular and learn ways to handle that. I don't think it is reasonable for Babble to protect everyone from everything. But by the same token, I do believe that the triggers I've listed above are common enough and harmful enough to warrent a warning system being in place.
Word.
> And also, to be honest, your suggestion of leaving it up to other readers to flag triggering posts is kind of a kick in the guts.
Yes, it is.
> a) it's what happens now, Larry is asking for the warning system to be improved, and b) like Larry says, it's too late to flag a post once it's already dropped you into your hellhole.
>
> I'm crawling back into my hole to hide now.Thank you, littleone. Thank you for all that you say. I won't forget your courage.
Lar
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