Posted by Gabbix2 on February 7, 2005, at 22:39:43
In reply to Rules » Gabbix2, posted by Toph on February 7, 2005, at 21:54:03
> Thanks for reading my rant, Gabbi. I don't think that civility is the issue, because I like that this is a safe place, especially for people who have emotional problems. I also think its important to have 911 to call if you need a cop or to have a fire doused, though we babblers seem to be the paramedics not Bob when someone's hurt or sick. What I was trying to say is that the administration of discipline has to be fair, just and merciful. I see it here as less than that. No due process, no investigation, no consideration of extenuating circumstances. Too much boarding school and not enough Montessori.
Part of helping rid the world of sexism, for example is to point out when someone is insensitive, for example. That's really hard to do here. You can support the offended party, but it takes someone who is very clever at Bobspeak to confront the sexist person with his/her insensitivity.Yes it's hard but trust me it can be done!
Do I think it should have to be? I honestly don't know. I don't. I used to be far more
angry and say "This is B.S" But the truth is the I prefer the posters at babble as a whole better than any other board I've posted on, so *something* is being done right.
It's actually more correct by Bob's standards in some cases to be very direct, it's surprising. You could say "I'm really irritated by that (whatever it is) or that really angers me, and I feel like you think I'm less of a person, or so and so is less of a person because she's a woman. That would be considered civil.
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> If I'm going to stay around here I guess I'll just have to forget about addressing another poster about something that bothers me, as supportive as negative feedback can be among people who care about each other.
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> TophWell that's completely up to you, but it's definitely learnable, I do however think people should get points for trying and up until very recently they did not. I don't like the artificiality of it but after a while you can make most of it your own.
As for the judging of intent and all that.
Yeah, I agree. I also think there is no way that Bob couldn't be exhausted by if not sick of us by now and I'm surprised he does as well as he does, however.. he has also turned down any offers of help so I don't think that's an excuse for unfairness.
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