Posted by Ron Hill on May 23, 2002, at 16:47:54
In reply to Please Be Civil » Ron Hill, posted by kiddo on May 23, 2002, at 14:59:57
Kiddo,
My comment was directed to Dr. Bob. The idea of relegating constituently guaranteed speech to an isolated corner of the web site is almost certainly illegal. In this regard, it would be similar to some of the events associated with the civil rights movement (e.g. separate but equal). I was merely drawing an analogy.
I meant absolutely no insult to you in any way.
> I don’t discriminate regardless of race, age, gender, sexual orientation, beliefs, social status, or in any other way.
Kiddo, where did I say that you do?
> Comparing my suggestion to what happened to African-Americans really bothers me and hurts to think someone could even think I’d be so cruel. I’m part Cherokee, so I hope you understand what I mean.
I don't think you are cruel, Kiddo. Heck, I don't even know you! From your posts that I've read on the various boards, you seem like a nice person. My comments were directed to Dr. Bob. I did so because he seemed to leave the door open to the idea of restricting speech at the conclusion of his brief reply: "Hmm, it sounds like a can of worms, but OTOH..."
I was merely conveying my opinion to Dr. Bob that "separate but equal" is probably not a good idea. IMHO, discrimination is a bad thing in any of its various faces, including discrimination against people of faith.
> In my opinion, you were jumping to conclusions for the fact you didn’t bother to even ask what I meant, or even phrase it as a question, you just came to the conclusion I was trying to ‘get rid’ of Lou, when in fact that isn’t the case at all.
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> Why not have a religious/spiritual board? There is more than one person on this site who refers to their faith regardless of being public or private about their faith. Why not add a place for those people to get together and have that ability while allowing those who don't want to participate the option of not utilizing it?As I've stated above, to restrict religious speech in the manner suggested is likely illegal. The legal term for such activity is "viewpoint discrimination".
> I'm offended that you make a racial discrimination/segregation reference to something that I authored for the fact you have no idea what race, religion, age and perhaps gender that I am-so please don't assume things about me that you don’t know.
I made NO assumptions about you. I didn't even think of you while I was writing the post. My post was directed to Dr. Bob.
> This comment felt accusing to me and I’d appreciate it if in the future you wouldn’t make these kinds of statements. I’m not discriminatory towards anyone. If you’d like to know something about me, please ask.
I made NO assumptions about you. I didn't even think of you while I was writing the post. My post was directed to Dr. Bob.
> I feel as if this is an over-generalization in the largest sense of the word. It’s like you have lumped me in with the KKK or whomever to make a point from a statement that wasn’t even there in the first place.I made NO assumptions about you. I didn't even think of you while I was writing the post. My post was directed to Dr. Bob.
> There are several boards on this website, categorized for CONTENT, not trying to shove them out the door. I thought it would be rather nice to have one like this. Other people have made references to reading their Bible and helped them through depression and were given the 3rd degree for it. Why not have a place where they may speak of it freely without repercussion?
Yes, I hear ya Kiddo. That's all fine well and good so long as religious speech is not restricted to only that particular web page on this site. Such restriction is viewpoint discrimination. The law requires that religious speech be given equal status as other forms of speech in the market place of ideas. As an aside, it would seem to me that giving someone the 3rd degree is uncivil, and that it should be dealt with as such.
> Please let me know if I've taken this statement wrong and there is something constructive that I have missed.
Kiddo, I’m sorry for your hurt feelings. That was certainly NOT my intent.
-- Ron
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