Posted by Tabitha on August 3, 2016, at 7:28:57
In reply to Re: orthomolecular, posted by Hello321 on August 2, 2016, at 19:34:31
> Doesnt matter so much ifna treatment failed in cal trial after clinical trial, if that treatment still helps you. When you dont know the cause of a condition, you wont know the fix, either. But sometimes youre lucky enough to stumble upon it. Medication wise.
Well sure, it's always possible a treatment will help, even if it failed multiple trials. It's just a lot less likely. If people were so biologically unique that large trials (thousands of people) didn't detect any responders, then I think it would be very difficult to find any effective medications at all. We wouldn't have all the ones that we do have. Plus I think you'd have a very unlikely time stumbling on something. You just wouldn't have time to try enough things.
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> I wouldnt doubt that if periactin were put through clinical trials for depression, that it could fail. It might help only 10 percent of those who try it. So there is a problem with saying a treatment isnt worth bringing to market for an illness even if it had only helped less than half who tried it.I don't think that's correct. If a treatment helps 10 percent of people, trials would reveal that. They typically take a sample of the population, try the medication on them, and compare results to a similar group taking placebo. Better trials use a larger group of people. If ten percent responded, that would definitely register.
Just as an example, I used a treatment for cancer that gave me an 8 percent survival advantage. That means that of 100 people with similar conditions to mine, 8 more in a treatment group survived 5 years (on average) than 100 that didn't get the treatment. It's not a very big difference, but it was seen in trials, thus the medication became part of standard care.
> What really needs to be looked at is the biological effects of a med, and not what condition it is designated for.
I agree, and medical research does this.
Anyway, I'll quit banging my drum on this topic. I do appreciate you engaging with me. It helps me understand how other people think. Best wishes with your treatment.
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