Posted by Lou Pilder on March 24, 2016, at 9:47:54
In reply to Lou's reply-never again » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 24, 2016, at 7:16:37
> > > > Tabitha,
> > > You wrote about anti-Semitism here. It is much more than anti-Semitic epithets being allowed in a community that creates and develops anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism can be created and developed by historical tactics that you do not need to be a mastermind to do. Here, I see right through these tactics but others may be ignorant of them. Here is a list of the ones that are used in communities, schools, workplaces, universities ect. I would like for you to look at these.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20080719/msgs/844756.html
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> > OK, I read your list. I guess I can see how you would think some of these things match what you experience here at babble:
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> > > B. Punishing a Jew or Jews for their unique beliefs or for their refusal to accept the claimes of Christianity.
> > > C. Having an attitude or even a policy directed toward a Jew or Jews as a people
> > > D. Placing a restriction on a Jew in a community while not enforcing that same restriction on others.
> > > E. Using a Jew or the Jewish people as a scapegoat for problems in a community.
> > > F. Fueling anti-Semitic feelings by allowing ideology that purports that one faith is superior to the Jewish faith.
> >
> > Yes these things, if they happen, *could possibly be* symptoms of anti-Semitism in a community. But they could also be:
> >
> > 1. Persons of other faiths think their faiths are superior to all faiths, including the Jewish faith. Thus, stating the superiority of their faith is not necessarily anti-Semitism.
> > 2. Persons might not like or agree with the statements of a particular person who happens to be Jewish. Reacting from this disagreement is not necessarily anti-Semitism.
> >
> > It's like, I am a female person. Sometimes people disagree with me, insult me, ignore me, or otherwise lead me to feel put down. But it doesn't follow that they hate female persons in general. It's possible they do, but I can't really know that, and it's not generally helpful to accuse people of misogyny.
> >
> > So what I am saying Lou, is that you are more than just a Jewish person. You are a human person too, and it's possible that some conflict you face has nothing to do with Jewishness. Also, sometimes it is good to set aside one goal (warning people about anti-Semitism) in favor of a different goal, such as making friends, or exchanging information with people with similar interests.
> >
> Tabitha,
> You wrote in a sense that what is posted that defames me here could be motivated by other intent than anti-Semitism. In order to understand how that tactic can be exposed to be nothing more than a transparent attempt to advance hatred toward the Jews, other posts by the individuals can be compared as to indicate their intent. In Scott's case, let us look at this:
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.html
> Mr. Hsiung allowed Scott to post the anti-Semitic statement used for centuries to commit mass-murder against Jews by refusing to post his tag line to be civil where Scott originally posted it. This hateful revulsion allowed by Mr. Hsiung turns my stomach. But it is much worse than that. For the dehumanization of the Jews allowed to be seen in Scott's statement directed against me, allows readers to think that Mr. Hsiung is validating the hate. And worse, that by Mr. Hsiung allowing it, readers could think that it will be good for this community as a whole because it is in Mr. Hsiung's thinking that it will. This sets up more hatred toward the Jews to be allowed as readers could see that Scott is exempt from Mr. Hsiung's enforcement policy so they could join Scott in a pack of Jew-haters to inflict emotional pain upon me because they see that if he is exempt and allowed to post anti-Semitic hate toward me here, then so shall they also be, and inflict more emotional distress upon me as is plainly visible here in the ganging up on me by many posters revering Scott and joining in with him in his defamation of me here all allowed by Mr. Hsiung. This is what Mr. Hsiung is promoting here as being supportive for he states that being supportive takes precedence. What has been precedence by leaders that foster hatred toward the Jews is in the historical record.
> Never again.
> Lou
>
> Tabitha,
Let us also look at this:
Lou.... http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130109/msgs/1042409.html
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1087029
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160306/msgs/1087500.html