Posted by Lou Pilder on March 21, 2016, at 19:19:55
In reply to Lou's response-no anti suicide drug » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 21, 2016, at 18:16:18
> > > They may see that calling me a troll is just a transparent reason to justify hate where no justification is deserved.
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> > Well, Lou, I try not to refer to you as a troll, but I think I can understand why that label has been applied to you. People are trying to figure out how best to engage with you. Many have come to the conclusion that it's best to ignore you. The various articles about internet trolls come to the same conclusion-- that the posting is best ignored. Thus it becomes a shortcut to point to that phenomena instead of trying to explain a long history of posts.
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> > I understand the recommendation to not engage with you. When I try to engage with you, I find it frustrating because it never results in the back-and-forth nature of communication that I expect in a conversation. For instance, I ask you where you get the idea that psych meds are dangerous killers, you point me to a website that doesn't have the standards of evidence that I trust in medical information, I point that out to you, then you apparently ignore what I posted and repeat your claims. I never feel as if I have been heard.
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> > I also feel frustrated that there's no personal disclosure or what I normally see as support in your posts. You post repeatedly that psych meds are dangerous killers. There is a lack of personal input. I think people would be much more open to talking with you if you told us a bit more about your history, what's happening with your life, how you're feeling, etc. Just normal human stuff.
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> > > They could see that those taking these drugs promoted by the leader of the pack are in the midst of hell and wanting to kill themselves and the drugs promoted increase suicidal thoughts and could suffer a horrible death by them.
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> > I have found the exact opposite to be true. Several times in my life I have had suicidal thoughts that were stopped by psychiatric meds. Because of those experiences, having some faith in the system of FDA approval and clinical trials, plus having reviewed the websites you quote, I think your claims are incorrect. In fact, I worry that someone might be harmed by your posts by not getting medication that could be life-saving for them. You are concerned about death and bloodshed, but you don't seem to consider the possibility of harm from lack of medication at all. It is strange, because I think you are capable of researching the rate of positive effects of medication on suicidal ideation versus the rate of adverse events. What if 1000 people are helped while 1 person is harmed by medication? Would you still crusade about the harms of medication?
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> You wrote about the harm that could be possible if one in a psychiatric crisis is not given psychotropic drugs.
> Be not deceived. There is no anti-suicide drug, for the army is trying to make one. They give troops in a psychiatric crisis Seroquel an other drugs promoted here and there are many suicides after the drugs are given.
> Children given these drugs by their parents in collaboration with a psychiatrist kill themselves and others along with them. Mothers kill their children after taking these drugs. Children kill their parents after taking these drugs.
> You see, I know what these drugs do to the mind, but I am prevented from posting here about that due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung. And if you knew, you could have a whole new perspective that is kept from you here by Mr. Hsiung.
> This new way of living could open your mind to be freed from the slavery of addictive drugs and depression and the shortened life-span that these drugs can cause. That choice is denied here to readers by Mr. Hsiung censoring me here. As long as I am not allowed to be heard, you could be swayed by what is allowed here, which includes anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive.
> Many here have been killed by the drugs being promoted here. I believe that they could still be alive if I was allowed to speak here.
> Lou
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Friends,
Be not deceived. Mr. Hsiung is allowing these posts of hate here against me with impunity from his enforcement rules. This could seriously mislead you to your death.
The drugs being promoted here could cause death by many ways and thousands are killed each month. Many by the combinations of these concoctions of death being allowed to be promoted here without the adverse consequences that could befall the taker and you could think that these drugs are safer than they really are.
You could be misled to think that you could make it to the emergency ward before you die. But there is sudden death from these drugs by heart stopping. You will not have time, you will be killed by the drugs.
Here is a video.
Lou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKj74MPGUcs
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