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Re: crusade for accurate information » Lou Pilder

Posted by Tabitha on March 21, 2016, at 15:09:14

In reply to Lou's response-crusade for life » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 20, 2016, at 20:14:36

> They may see that calling me a troll is just a transparent reason to justify hate where no justification is deserved.

Well, Lou, I try not to refer to you as a troll, but I think I can understand why that label has been applied to you. People are trying to figure out how best to engage with you. Many have come to the conclusion that it's best to ignore you. The various articles about internet trolls come to the same conclusion-- that the posting is best ignored. Thus it becomes a shortcut to point to that phenomena instead of trying to explain a long history of posts.

I understand the recommendation to not engage with you. When I try to engage with you, I find it frustrating because it never results in the back-and-forth nature of communication that I expect in a conversation. For instance, I ask you where you get the idea that psych meds are dangerous killers, you point me to a website that doesn't have the standards of evidence that I trust in medical information, I point that out to you, then you apparently ignore what I posted and repeat your claims. I never feel as if I have been heard.

I also feel frustrated that there's no personal disclosure or what I normally see as support in your posts. You post repeatedly that psych meds are dangerous killers. There is a lack of personal input. I think people would be much more open to talking with you if you told us a bit more about your history, what's happening with your life, how you're feeling, etc. Just normal human stuff.

> They could see that those taking these drugs promoted by the leader of the pack are in the midst of hell and wanting to kill themselves and the drugs promoted increase suicidal thoughts and could suffer a horrible death by them.

I have found the exact opposite to be true. Several times in my life I have had suicidal thoughts that were stopped by psychiatric meds. Because of those experiences, having some faith in the system of FDA approval and clinical trials, plus having reviewed the websites you quote, I think your claims are incorrect. In fact, I worry that someone might be harmed by your posts by not getting medication that could be life-saving for them. You are concerned about death and bloodshed, but you don't seem to consider the possibility of harm from lack of medication at all. It is strange, because I think you are capable of researching the rate of positive effects of medication on suicidal ideation versus the rate of adverse events. What if 1000 people are helped while 1 person is harmed by medication? Would you still crusade about the harms of medication?

 

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