Posted by john locke on January 24, 2016, at 22:45:50
In reply to Lou's response- the wages of psychiatric drugs, posted by Lou Pilder on January 24, 2016, at 17:10:45
> > > > John,
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> > > > At the end of the day, you probably know what's going to be best for you. So I'll offer my opinion, but please discard any part of it that doesn't resonate with you. Too often people give advice with the best of intentions, and it ends up being more harmful than useful.
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> > > > My personal gauge of whether or not to take medication is this: are my depression and anxiety having such a negative impact on me that they significantly lower the quality of my life? If the answer is yes, then it feels appropriate for me to take medication.
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> > > > I'm a huge advocate for taking medication because it's helped me SO much, but I know that everyone has a different path. From your previous posts and this one, it sounds like you would prefer to try other forms of treatment first. And I think there are a lot of benefits to this approach. Besides CBT, there are also natural remedies, yoga, meditation, diet changes etc. that could possibly be very beneficial to you. And all those things are all worth trying because you just never know - a combination of CBT and time in the woods could be exactly what you need, and you might never have to take medication to treat your anxiety, OCD, and depression.
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> > > > If you do ultimately decide you need medication, just be sure to find a psychiatrist who really gets you. It might take some shopping around, but a good psychiatrist can make all the difference in the world.
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> > > > I wish you the very best, and happy trails!
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> > > > Kathryn
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> > > Thank you Kathryn. I'm so glad that medication has been helpful for you. In my heart of hearts I know that it is probably best that I try and get through this with quote on quote natural remedies first. It is quite hard, though, to sit here and feel this way when there is a possible solution which is such an easy one.
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> > > By the way, might I ask which medications you have tried and how long you have taken them for? I hope I'm not being too forward. I know that everyone is different in regards to psych meds, so I'm really just asking out of curiousity. Which SSRI's helped you with social anxiety, as I remember you saying that they were really nice for you in that regards. Thank you so much for your kind response.
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> > > John
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> > John,
> > Many will come here and say that I am the cause of their real or imagined ills. And you may even be swayed by those using fallacious arguments that fall apart when intelligent readers are given by me what could expose the hate. You see, one of the most horrible yet effective tactics used by Jew-haters is the fallacy of scapegoating. Ignorant people are easily swayed to hate the targeted person by another using scapegoating. And tragically, this site allows scapegoating of me to be seen as being supportive along with the allowing of anti-Semitic propaganda. That could easily persuade you to discard what I am going to tell you in my next post. And those posters here that use that tactic to defame me here, could have the deaths of those that are killed by the drugs from reading here and rejecting my warnings, could have their blood upon them as leading them to their deaths and/or life-ruining conditions or addictions from the drugs that they advocate here and readers suffer a horrible death by them....more
> > Lou
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> John,
> Another fallacy allowed to be used here is the fallacy of stigma. Mr. Hsiung himself even uses this fallacy against me here and leads others to think that it will be good for his community as a whole for him to do it so he thinks. Stigmatization is a cruel tactic but worse it could lead readers here to their deaths by them ignoring what I post here en banc as Mr. Hsiung himself advocates that readers ignore me as he himself ignores me to be an example for others to ignore me. This cruel tactic could result in the deaths of readers that are influenced to ignore me by Mr. Hsiung, so that others mimic his example. His example is deplorable in a mental-health community and can create and develop anti-Semitic hate which readers could think is being supportive by Mr. Hsiung for he states that support takes precedence. And when you see hate condoned by a psychiatrist, know that the fruits of hate are being created and developed. This could induce a mindset to kill others and also for those with homicidal thinking, suicidal thinking can emerge before that.
> And now you stand by the edge where your next step could be death. And if you turn around now, that next step could lead you to life, and life more abundantly...more
> LouLou,
What are the grounds for your argument? Have you personally had bad experiences with medications or been close to someone who has? Or are you speaking from a moral point of view, that one must find true happiness through themselves and others, not through chemicals?
John
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