Posted by Lou Pilder on May 27, 2013, at 8:56:25
In reply to Lou's reply-drugs.com, posted by Lou Pilder on May 27, 2013, at 8:47:21
> > > > > > http://www.decp.org/experts/DrugChart.pdf
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> > > > > Nice try.
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> > > > > I actually came across this chart before I submitted my last post. It is wrong. All antidepressants are listed as CNS depressants, including Wellbutrin. This is an unfortunate example of misinformation. The chart was established by the Los Angeles police department in the early 1970s to justify their DWI (driving while intoxicated) program. They are far from being a definitive source of pharmacological information, despite their claiming support by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). It really is an amusing website as it is an example of fabricating "facts" and claiming expertise to fit an agenda - convictions.
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> > > > > Any other citations?
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> > > > > - Scott
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> > > > Friends,
> > > > It is written here that the chart of the category that the drugs are in was written in the 1970s by the Los Angeles Police dept.
> > > > But I say to you readers, that Effexor was not put on the market in the US until 1993.
> > >
> > > The chart may have been initially established in the 1970s, but lower right hand corner of the pages of the chart indicate that it was issued 03/19/09. Clearly they periodically update it.
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> > Emmme_V2,
> > The update of 2009 is for that chart. That chart is from Washington State, not Los Angeles.
> > If you believe that the chart that I cited in the link is from Los Angeles, where is there evidence to you for that so that you accept that as fact?
> > Friends, what we have here is that if the Washington chart came from the Los Angeles chart from the early 1970s, then the update could be from Washington since it was updated after the 1970s. Effexor was not marketed in the US in the early 1970s. Effexor in that chart is listed as a CNS depressant, and also look in drugs.com under interactions with Trileptal.
> > But it is much more than that here. For here one may not know that taking two CNS depressants could kill the one taking them together. And if people are led to doubt the reliability of the Washington chart, where is the evidence that the chart is not accurate? The update could be by the Washington dept, not Los Angeles.
> > Lou
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> Friends,
> The taking of a combination od CNS depressants can be deadly. The two drugs in question are Trileptal and Effexor taken together.
> Now the chart offered by me here states that it was issued in 2009. There is posted here that {issued} could mean an update from a previous version. So what? Even if it is an update from some version, which version and from who? Does it matter? Well, if it an update from a Los Angeles version from the 1970s, then so what? I do not think that the LA police are bozos and do not know the difference between an CNS depressant and stimulant or something else.
> So let it be with the chart. The overriding aspect here is to warn you that the drugs in question are indeed CNS depressants. I base this on the chart that I cited as accurate, and I have seen nothing to refute its accuracy except a claim that the LA police produced the original document in the 70s, and I say, so what?
> Here is a link from drugs.com showing the interactions between Trileptal and Effexor.
> Parents, do you want to take the risk of having your child or yourself drugged in collaboration with a psychiatrist with these mind-altering drugs that show that when taken together they are CNS depressants and could kill your child or yourself?
> Lou
> http://www.drugs.com/interactions-checker.php?drug_list=2296-1524,1765-1129correction:
http://www.drugs.com/interactions-check.php?drug_list=2296-1524,1765-1129
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