Posted by Lou Pilder on June 17, 2012, at 10:05:43
In reply to Lou's response-dhagrydheshep » violetdream, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2012, at 15:52:01
> > I am so, so sick of this. I don't have the money, time, resources or willpower to go on the med rollercoaster again because it seems like Parnate hasn't had any effect ever but make me worse, regardless of dose.
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> > I've been on every med CONSTANTLY for more than 10 years. It's time for my brain to take a break, it's hard to get the info since there are so many anti med sites out there but it seems plausible that my neurotransmitters have been basically burned out after all that time.
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> > The only thing I haven't tried is a substantial period off of medications while working on natural and holistic methods. However, since I don't have any motivation or the ability to feel joy, hope etc, I need a temporary thing to rev me up while I dose down.
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> > Basically the only meds in the treatment depression tier I haven't tried are amphetamine type stims (although the pseudo amphetamine "boost" never did anything for me) and opiates. I would not like to be on these things long time, obviously, but I need a way to trick my body into feeling emotions that I can't feel while I work on healing it in different ways and taper down slowly.
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> > Would this be a reasonable approach to getting off meds in this situation? I am really angry and sick of doctors who treat me like a junkie when I ask for *Klonapin* which takes me months to go through. I've never abused any substance, even caffeine, and even Klonapin when my doctor told me to take it daily for sleep. I just didn't want to and I don't have that kind of personality.
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> > How do you find a doctor who will prescribe this and not think you're a junkie? I feel like my only other option is tripping on some Ketamine I'd get off the street somewhere :P
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> violetdream,
> You wrote,[...so sick...med rollercoaster...Parnate..makes me worse...on meds constantly for..10 years...neurotransmitters..burned out...I don't have any motivation or the ability to feel joy, hope...I needa way to trick my body...I feel like my only other option...]violetdream,
Let us reason together. You would like to know if this is a resonable approach to your situation. If you take another drug for a short time, if it did trick your body, how long would the tricking last? And could not you become addicted to the drug that you think will trick your body? Then what?
Now if after that, would you try to find another drug to trick your body? Then could not that drug cause addiction and for how long could the tricking last? Could not this go on and on for the rest of your life? And during that time, could not death result from the drugs? Or a life-ruining condition?
But it is well-known that there could be great tribulation to the person that stops drugs after 10 years rollercoasting on them. The tribulation can be horrific where there are reports that people kill themselvess during the withdrawal from the drugs. And a mind-altered state could occur so horrible that homocidal thinking could envelop the mind. So what could {my only other option} be, as you write?
There is a way here that seems natural to a person here, as others post here about them being on drugs for many years. But what is the end result to them? And is that what you really want? You say you are without the feeling of joy and hope. Do you think that by continuing in taking mind-altering drugs that you will regain joy and hope? If after 10 years of drugs, is it reasonable to think that more years could make your humaness worse and lose even more of your human feelings? Could not then you become like a zombie? Is that what you want to happen to you?
There is another way. Now if you could go back and remember as a child having joy and hope and belonging,, and if you can not remember a time like that then you could skip the following, there is a way that brings you back to the life you used to know. Back to the green fields, back to the rivers that gave life to the trees, back to the blue skies with white clouds kissed by the sun. Back to your true self with feelings of joy. Back to the days of old, back to a life of hope and a pocketfull of dreams. Back to life that you once knew.
More drugs? More addiction? More unjoyous life? More unhopeful days? WOuld you not want to go back to the green fields? Back to where you once belonged?
Lou
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