Posted by Lou Pilder on March 10, 2012, at 16:43:23
In reply to Re: Lou's response-dhaweihgzofpsyn, posted by Lou Pilder on March 10, 2012, at 16:30:09
> > > Hi all, I'm hoping to get some med-related help. I've posted a few times about starting Parnate, which I've been on for about three weeks. It's caused extreme hypersomnia (although the Wellbutrin I was taking before didn't help, thanks for the suggestion to drop that, SLS!) and more recently, crazy blood pressure changes. I have a blood pressure cuff from back in my EMT days and my BP has swung wildly between too low and too high. I'm not as worried about that (as much as I should be, probably!) as I feel that it's indicative of why it's so hard to even move. Real short bike rides (to my therapist's, the only place I can go right now) take forever, are beyond exhausting, and leave me feeling sore and sick.
> > >
> > > Anyway, since I'm still not getting that much help from the Parnate besides possibly a tiny bit in the social anxiety arena, I'm thinking of letting it go. I know the tiredness eventually subsides but I've heard it could be another three weeks and that sounds miserable. I guess I just want to hear from people as to whether Parnate might be worth the current misery or if something else out there could work.
> > >
> > > I have atypical major depression, including hypersomnia et al, although the inability to get out of bed used to be more psychological than physical before Parnate. I also have severe social anxiety, not wanting to leave the apartment for days (it doesn't help living in NY, if you leave you're space you're going to be talking to people!). I suppose my worst symptoms are extreme self-hatred, shame, and suicidal ideation. I'm in therapy as mentioned, which I know is important, but in my past major depressive episodes medication was vital to even getting to a place where I could work on myself - otherwise I feel like I'm just going in sad circles.
> > >
> > > Anyway, for meds I've tried:
> > > Luvox
> > > Lexapro
> > > Prozac
> > > Paxil
> > > elavil (all of which didn't work),
> > > imipramine and zoloft (worked a little, esp. imipramine, but made me feel stupid which would be my absolute least favorite side effect),
> > > Wellbutrin worked a little as an adjunct then pooped out
> > > Effexor, which worked great then pooped out and
> > > Lamictal, which worked great but literally made my teeth fall out and I had to d/c.
> > >
> > > As an a-typical with social anxiety I know Parnate is supposed to be one of the best, but even my p-doc thinks it's not working. I'm interested in Viibryd but SSRI's haven't necessarily worked for me before. I would very much appreciate any and all advice.
> > >
> > > Thanks, and sorry again for the super long post...
> >
> > kagome,
> > You wrote,[...I'm hoping to get some med-related help...I would very much appreciate any and all advice...].
> > The advice that I could give you is to let you know of the consequences that these drugs could have upon a person. Then you could have my educational contribution along with contributions here from posters offering suggestion that the drugs they take help them or could help you.
> > But be advised that taking these drugs together could cause death. Here are some combinations taken here that I will warn you about so that you could have more information to make a more informed decision as to take these drugs in combonation or not.
> > Let's look at [Parnate with Nortriptyline]
> > These two together could cause convulsions, coma and death.
> > Let's now look at [Parnate with Abilify]
> > These two could cause CNS depression and respiratory depression couuld cause death.
> > Let's now look at [lithium and prazosin]
> > These two together could cause blood presssure problems
> > Let's now look at [lithium amd abilify]
> > These two together could cause an increase in neurotoxicity. That could mean various severe issues.
> > Let's now look at [nortriptyline and abilify]
> > These two togeter could cause Tardive Dyskinesia, psychosis,hallucinations,seizures, memory loss and more.
> > Let's now look at [parnate and lamictal]
> > These two together could cause respiratory depression ...also [nortriptyline and lamictal] and [lithium with parnate] and [lamictal with abilify] also with [lithium and lamicatal.
> > Let's now look at [lithium with nortriptyline]
> > These two together could cause serotonone syndrome and neuroleptic malignant syndrome which could lead to death.
> > Now let's look at [prazosin and nortriptyline and parnate]
> > These could cause blood pressure problems.
> > Since death is a potential consequence to the taker of the drugs in combination, could you have more dialog here with me so that there could be a more informed body of educational material for you to make a more-informed decision as to if you do or do not want to take these drugs?
> > Here is a link that has the stats of death from abilify. Then what about the combinations?
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/abilify/death
> > Lou
>
> kagome,
> Here are some more links to the stats on death from other drugs.
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/lamictal/death
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/lithium/death
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/parnate/death/
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/nortriptyline/death
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/prazosin/death
> LouFriends,
Here is the link for lithium causing death
Lou
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/lithium+carbonate/death
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1012720
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