Posted by NeilGSlade on January 10, 2012, at 11:15:14
In reply to Re: Clicking the Amygdala?!?!?, posted by Yoder on February 6, 2010, at 16:25:01
It's been a couple of years since "Yoder" posted this anonymous message, and I felt it was time for a response putting his comments in perspective.
Given that Yoder's comments are "anonymous" (although not at all to me, see below), I will provide only a single new rebuttal on this thread, and almost certainly the only new one I will provide, as I am aware of long anonymous forum members will continue to provide false information in a feigned "discussion", and I really have no time for that. If anyone is interested in a full and DOCUMENTED history of TD Lingo (TDL) and his life and work, please go to this page http://www.neilslade.com/art/Brain/history.html "Real History of TDL and The Dormant Brain Lab"
1) "Yoder"'s real identity was known at this time because of personal correspondence sent to me by another anonymous poster here "Dashiki", who is also identified by real name. His identity is further by the content and self-reference commentary left by Yoder easily crossed referenced with his other online commentary.In this private correspondence which was shared with me by one of his online "friends", Yoder admits is doings here, as well as other web mischief, and he uses his real name in the correspondence.
I knew Yoder in many capacities at the brain lab, and his identity is no secret at all, and any of the old staff at the lab knows exactly who this person is, and why he carries a grudge.
I will not reveal his full name here, just because my intent is not to damage anyone's reputation or put their professional career at jeopardy- and also because although Dr. Bob allows unsubstantiated commentary and personal attack by anonymous posts, he allows people to remain anonymous online and will XXX out any real use of his name here. A curious double standard in my opinion, but its Dr. Bob's forum...
2) Yoder is in fact a math and computer teacher in a Colorado Public school system, (also referred somewhat in his comments here).
I read his comment here with amusement: "(I am a mathematician/scientist by training...BS and MS)" BS is right. He is a high school math teacher and runs the computer lab. If that is scientist, well then, I'm an astronaut because I look up at stars.
One reason that Yoder will not be self-identified is because he is aware that by revealing his real name, that lets out an entire can of worms- including what he has revealed through his signed correspondence about quite mischievous and in fact illegal activity online in his attempts to discredit myself, and the detrimental effect that would have on his job, his reputation, and perhaps his pension. I've already had to deal with this by notifying local law enforcement and Yoder's superiors at his work place, who put a quick end to that activity of Yoder, so, I prefer to not stir the pot any further, unless legally necessary.
3. Yoder's personal vendetta against myself stems from the fact that after Lingo died, I continued my work as I had done in partnership with Lingo from 1982-1993. And, I was quite successful at it, not only being able to support myself entirely from my publications on brain education, but also because I developed a good reputation for my work. This is documented on my web site "Real History of The Dormant Brain Lab" freely accessible online.
Yoder temporarily teamed up with a few of TD's former students after the lab director's death in 1993, with the intent of doing something with all of the intellectual legacy. They even formed a legal partnership of their own with the remaining new president of TD's non-profit corp, who remains my friend.
But all of this good intention fell to dust within a few short years, and not only was the legal corp dissolved, but Yoder nor anyone else did anything in the way of continuing the work, which left the job solely for me to continue as I had done uninterrupted since 1982.
Except for one bit of mischief.
Yoder had his buddy L.G. (See Real History of Brain Lab page) obtain from me missing portions of one of TDL's manuscripts. A year later, with Yoder's secretive assistance, L.G. made a claim of copyright ownership of the book, in an attempt to obtain a publishing deal for himself, as owner of the book. Of course, the Lingo Estate (surviving relatives) immediately put a stop to that-- and this didn't set very well with either L.G. or Yoder, who then began bashing me online as you see here as some kind of retribution. You see, not only had the president of the non-profit legal corp made sure I had, and could do whatever I wanted with all of the intellectual property, but Lingo's estate had further given me legal permission to continue to publish a few choice manuscripts.
4. This alone set the tone for Yoder's discontent, because he never achieved either the kind of public recognition I had done, nor had received either the public or private approval of TD Lingo. The record of this is clear, again as clearly demonstrated in the published correspondence from Lingo to Yoder, seen in the web page "Real History of The Dormant Brain Lab" and there identified by the first letter of his real first name, "R".
Again, I'm not out to get the fellow fired, but that is whom I refer to on that page of documents.
5. What followed was a series of threatening emails, my newsletter forum abuse, and the eventually revealed plans to try to ruin my email service by Yoder as well as a stated plan to "hack into Slade's computer and steal his mailing list".
6. Yoder, was in fact a great disappointment to to TDL, whom among other things, eventually accused Yoder of plagiarism. One might dismiss this as rumor- except for the fact that a little bit of detective work online shows that Yoder continues to plagiarise a great deal of work on his web site, including wholesale reproduction of TDL's own work- with no proper credit given, inferring the the author of the work is none other than the web site owner himself. Hardly honest.
(It might be noted that after I made TDL's accusations of Yoder's continuing plagiarism, he finally begin giving proper author credit to SOME of the vast number of documents he copied and pasted on his own site.)
7. And that web site of his is the most curious aspect of all of Yoder's negativity and wrath. Despite the carefully sculpted anti-commentary here, Yoder, under his real name, continues to publish with glowing sentiment, reams and reams of TDL's old manuscripts and writings on his web site. And this is easily enough found, and the clarity of whom Yoder is, is easily discerned from those web pages by cross checking the comments here and there.
Why? Either he has calmed down and really believes in the stuff, or perhaps he knows that it drives web traffic to his site, where he sells musical instruments and conducts his other business.
The record is unmistakable, in spite of Yoder's complaints about TDL here, finally, finally in 2005, a full twelve years after TDL's death Yoder began to publish documents of Lingo's in his possession when my success at popularizing Lingo's work was apparent. This is documented in the Internet Archive of Yoder's web site. Hey why not? I was getting 3000 visitors a day to my site, why not ride on my and TDL's coat tails- while anonymously bash him here, in a misguided attempt to get under my fingernails?
7. Yoder states here (not on his site of course) that "There is no evidence that Eccles said what Lingo/Slade say he said." But there is in fact ample evidence. All one needs to do is read the books and articles by John Eccles, and his feelings about the brain, and his opinion about the "infinite untapped potential of the brain" is well documented and known by anyone who has read at any depth the writings of John Eccles, which apparently Yoder has not. See Eccles, "How the Self Controls Its Brain" Berlin/New York: Springer, 1994., or perhaps an interesting third party paper such as http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_05_2_giroldini.pdf
In fact, the lecture from which Lingo derives his quote, "The brain indicates its powers are endless", which itself is copied copiously all over the web at this point, , is a lecture that many people attended besides Lingo. Several supply information about the talk that Lingo himself never revealed, such as the actual title of the talk. Lingo's quote is derived from The Brain-Mind Problem, delivered by Sir John Eccles at the University of Colorado on July 31, 1974.
8. Finally we turn to the work of TD Lingo himself, which Yoder anonymously makes a weak attempt to destabilize and minimalism here --
(Really, can we ever trust anonymous sources?
That's why I always use my real and full name in online commentary.)Lingo was not a member of the academic aristocracy, nor did he ever pretend as much. He was an independent thinker, teacher, and researcher. Certainly in a greater capacity as a scientist than Yoder would claim to be.
But he did have these degrees: Ph.B. B.Sci., M.A.
from the University of Chicago and other institutions.Lingo spent the last 35 years of his life researching human brain and behavior, not only from massive printed material and publications, easily seen lining the walls of his home (see photos http://www.neilslade.com/art/Brain/brainrev2.html ) but clearly indicated in his work and writing, which would have been impossible without a thorough knowledge of the field.
The assertion by Yoder that "formed his own and often refuted behavioral theories by reading "Psychology Today" is patently absurd, although I am sure it is something that Lingo read among all of the other literature.
Lingo had a thorough knowledge of brain anatomy, and current understandings of neruophysiology, however gained, and this is reflected in his books, abstracts, and papers.
More importantly, he formed original concepts that looked at brain function in a unique way, and this is what he taught to his students over decades.
Lingo corresponded with hundreds of individuals throughout the world, as well as had hundreds of individuals took part in his educational facility and summer "brain school" camp for 35 years, where people studied their own selves, their own behavior, and their own brain- in a living functional state within their own craniums.
If being a teacher, an entertainer, a writer, someone with an intimate scientific knowledge of brain function, and an observer of human beings over the course of a lifetime doesn't qualify one to form an opinion of brain function and behavior, as Lingo did- then nothing does.
-Neil Slade, January 2012
www.NeilSlade.com
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