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Re: nardil questions @ europerep » leon21

Posted by europerep on October 5, 2011, at 8:21:07

In reply to Re: nardil questions @ europerep, posted by leon21 on October 4, 2011, at 17:32:03

> Thanks for the info:)
> I`ve actually lived in Eupen. I know the city very well.
> Next time...i`ll ask for Nardelzine.
> Do you know how it works with the insurance?
> Last time they said to me they need all the papers from my doc...but they don`t see why they have to pay for Nardil since there are many more/other "free" antidepressents in Germany.

Haha, what a funny coincidence. So you've lived in Eupen, but you are from Germany?

If you have lived in Belgium, you probably have at least basic knowledge of either French or Dutch, right? If so, you can take a look at the CBIP/BCFI (Belgium's "Rote Liste"), it mentions Nardelzine:
http://www.cbip.be/GGR/MPG/MPG_JCD.cfm
Maybe you could print this out when taking it to the pharmacy. When I went to a Belgian pharmacy with a script for it the pharmacist first told me he hadn't heard of a drug called Nardelzine, but then he looked it up and ordered it for me.

As for the insurance: so far, my insurance has paid for all of the drugs I have bought in Belgium. If you have trouble with getting reimbursement for phenelzine, here's what I'd do: first of all, start on phenelzine by paying for it yourself and calculate how much of it you need per month. Unless you have to take a very high dose, you'll probably need 1-2 boxes (i.e. 100-200 x 15mg) per month, that would add up to maximum 68. Then look at other drugs available in Germany, and calculate how much they'd cost you. For example, if you took 300mg of venlafaxine per month, that would already cost more than 150, and the insurance would have to pay for it. Tell the insurance that they have the choice between reimbursing you 68 for phenelzine or, alternatively, you'll take venlafaxine for more than 150 per month. (You can even increase the price difference if you tell them that you'd take a combination, let's say venlafaxine plus aripiprazole... that would easily cost hundreds of euros per month.) Of course it's a bluff because you wouldn't want to switch to venlafaxine (I assume), but I'm sure the insurance will be willing to compromise on that. It might be different with foreign drugs that are immensely expensive, but 68 is next to nothing, so I really think they would accept to pay for it.

Let me know if you have any other questions... and if you are going to buy Nardelzine in Belgium, please let me know how it works out, and whether you get your insurance to pay for it.

So much for now...
ER

 

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