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Re: has anyone done ketogenic diet + ad (nutritio)

Posted by desolationrower on March 30, 2011, at 20:37:08

In reply to Re: has anyone done ketogenic diet + antidepressants, posted by linkadge on March 26, 2011, at 13:49:03

I split posts, it was getting long.

>Consuming coconut oil creates ketone bodies that >are a good source of energy for the brain and >can replace sugar as an energy source.

>Well, I don't know if this is maintream science yet. Also, I heard coconut oil isn't all that great for you.

Mainstream science, but not mainstream medicine. saturated fat increases & (but enlarges) ldl particles, but increases hdl more (hdl size changes are confusing, though). Carbs increase small ldl & triglycerides. The saturated fats in coconut are generally better than that in milkfat. I would note that there is a separate effect of unsaturate fatty acids: monounsaturate to some extent, and polyunsaturated to a greater extent increase insulin sensitivity. So they can help those with diabetes or pre-diabetes. Its better to avoid polyunsaturated fat and limit carbs and total calories instead. But this is important for studies showing benefit from these. saturated and monounsaturate are also less oxidisable, and oxidised fatty acids & derivatives in ldl are bad.

I was really talking more about ketosis specifically, but these issues do have a lot of overlap. I do eat oats, buckwheat, legumes, and potatoes pretty often, and not that much meat, so i'm not exactly doing primal. for both nutrition, price, and ecological reasons. There's no 'health' board anymore so i guess discussion of all of it here is ok. The influence of nutrition on mental health i think would mostly go through inflammation from obesity, excess w-6 (industrial seed oil like corn, soy, cottonseed, as well as animal arachodonic acid), and insufficient fermentable fiber (veg, fruit, grain bran, or nut), insufficient zinc & magnesium. maybe less trace lithium in refined foods. vitamin D is sort of here as well. Some constituents of plant food can be good for other reasons, though its unclear the magnitutde, like maois in turmeric, comt inhibitors in green tea, etc. I've posted on some of this before, but i could talk about it more.


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