Posted by Brains! on September 21, 2009, at 10:24:23
In reply to Re: Ephedra / Ephedrine for depression / ADHD, posted by uncouth on July 23, 2009, at 19:59:54
If you are interested in over-the-counter products, you might consider phosphatidylserine.
I've been researching it and it provides brain support, is missing from our food in comparison to our ancestors and supposedly helps with depression, ADHD, adrenal fatigue, quality sleep, cognition, memory & exercise recovery.
I started with my first dose last night. Slept very well. I'll follow up with more info as the experiment goes on. We will also have my ADHD dh try it along with very ADHD nephew & niece.
Something else I recommend, having received great benefit from it, is the information in an excellent book, "The Mood Cure" by Julia Ross. Her questionnare helps you identify which kind(s) of depression you have, and offers in depth information about using targeted amino acids along with vitamin/mineral supplements. It also helped me figure out that my thyroid needed support.
What is remarkable about Julia Ross is her origins in addiction recovery (including quitting nicotine). They found that diet helped folks with recovery, but the length of time it took to feel better contributed to derailing attempts. Adding targeted amino acids got folks on track immediately, and with an incredible increase in long term success rates. Her nutritional advice makes great sense, and in my case, it saved me from taking my own life (and gave me a new lease on it!)
Many people, though, find it difficult to come up with money for nutritional supplements, preferring to stick with drugs that can be paid for by insurance. Your choice, but I find that my co-pays are similar to the cost of supplements, and the supplements are more like foods, often putting back what is missing.
If your adrenals are exhausted (which surely could happen if you were on ephedra for years) then taking a look at caring for their recuperation would be wise, as would possibly a trial of Naturethroid (a dessicated thyroid medication). Investigate hypothyroid symptoms (stopthethyroidmadness.com or About.com, thyroid) and see if that might need addressing.
Hang in there! You are on the internet looking for answers and support. Keep trying, and you will likely find an answer that fits!
> yeah tried everything.
> currently on 80mg of strattera, luvox, geodon, memantine, tianeptine, lunesta
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> coming off of the memantine
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> was on adderall IR 10mg 2x/day for some time, but then switched to high dose strattera. to be honest, not sure that it's as good as adderall, but adderall definitely had an "on-off" sorta feeling to it.
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> also quit smoking cigarettes (pack a day) with the patch...but feel like i'm on mars. wow, cigarettes were easily my strongest psychiatric med i now realize, the absence of them flipped me on my head. but i haven't cheated. i think it's not the nicotine in the cigarettes i needed, it must have been one of the other chemicals that was doing something to me, because the patch did nothing for my withdrawal symptoms, it only helped with cravings.
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> anyway, just thinking about stuff. maybe ephedra is really what my body is craving and i can get off everything else? or maybe not.
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