Posted by Michael Bell on March 1, 2009, at 12:23:35
In reply to Re: new study finds no D2 dopamine abnormality in » Michael Bell, posted by myco on March 1, 2009, at 10:45:14
Hi Myco, it is not raising the norepinephrine levels, but the reuptake inhibitors specifically, that I think are not good for social phobia. This is based on a lot of research and personal experience, and is by no means to be considered gospel. Looking at what is out there today, I think it is pretty much accepted that the most effective drugs for social anxiety are MDMA, GHB, NARDIL and KLONOPIN, and for some people, the SSRIs, while APs are the most effective for paranoia. So combinations of the above, as long as they are safe and legal (not mdma or ghb obviously) should be effective to some degree.
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> Social anxiety is one of my root issues (GAD - type also. These labels are confusing and mixed for me) - very severe at times and yes social phobia (I guess paranoid is one perception of it). Why do you think that drugs used to raise dopamine levels and norepinephrine would make these conditions worse? I've just begun tyrosine this morning with nardil in a very small dose with all the proper vitamin and mineral accompaniments. I still think that seroquel lowers DA and SA. The drop in my moods when I started it a week ago for sleep on nardil (25mg - tiny dose) is to coincidental to not be associated I think.
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> > If the anxiety you are suffering from is of the socially anxious and socially paranoid type (they are judging me, etc.) then my belief is that two classes of drugs will make those symptoms worse: drugs that raises dopamine levels (not including drugs that stimulate dopamine release) and drugs that act as norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors. In regards to your question about Seroquel - As much as people think APs are the work of the devil, I think that under the proper guidance they can be very effective in combination with SSRIs for social phobia, especially if there is a paranoid component to it (which there usually is).
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