Posted by FrequentFryer on January 10, 2008, at 23:13:26
Got allot out of this forum so I thought I would give something back.
I have taken almost all the Anti-D's / Cocktails and there is only 1 drug that helps me through the bad times. Sure go ahead and try Effexor if it works for you good, stick with it, if it turns you into a zombie or poops out (more then likley) give Nardil a try.
If your reading this you probably want to get anti-depressed ASAP, so. Get some Nardil and try to get up to the best dosage ASAP (best dosage = 1mg Phenelzine per 1 kg of bodyweight). I managed to get off Zoloft cold turkey and onto 90mg of Nardil in 8 days and experienced relief after 2 weeks. (turned from a depressed zombie to above average happy person).
I wasn't expecting any relief for atleast 3 weeks at optimal dose, but for some reason I am getting relief after 1 week. I think its because I have been taking heaps of fish oil and getting a good night sleep via a small dose of Seroquel (25 - 100 mg), so I would recomend those to ya, especially the Seroquel because it antagonise's 5ht2 and if it dosn't put you to sleep almost nothing will. (The MAOI's usually give ya a bit of insomnia at first).
Heaps of people / doctors don't recommend Maoi's because of all the contradictions but personally I have never found it a problem.
(Disclaimer): EVERY ONE'S DIFFERENT THOUGH!
So at first avoid Tyramine, then when the Nardil is at a steady plasma level you can try eating a bit of cheese, then try and get your blood preasure checked 40 minutes later. (Tyramine and Tryptophan is pretty safe with Nardil I find).
Back in the day Pdoc's used to try and treat people with MAOI's and Amphetamines. THIS I DON'T RECOMMEND! Probably the worst contradiction of any drug combination, also definatly stay away from MDMx.
Other MAOI's when taken with Nardil is probably your biggest worry. (ie chocolate, veggie might etc), but I wouldn't worry about them to much, they don't bother me any but again everyone is different so take the same precaution as with the Tyramine.Now I would say taking 1mg of Nardil per 1kg of bodyweight with the right diet & sleep etc is 90% likely to Antidepress the worst of case's (well its your best chance anyway). That being said I won't be surprised if the antidepressant effects start to diminish over time. Then you will need to add other things.. But that is a whole nother chapter.
Best of luck.
Freq
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