Posted by linkadge on September 16, 2006, at 13:30:34
In reply to Re: What all meds have you tried ?, posted by blueberry on September 16, 2006, at 8:51:05
>I am aware that the 70% to 80% of people who did >well with ECT are not hanging out at pbabble, so >this thread is a bit skewed to the negative side.
Who says that 70%-%80 of people improve with ECT.
>We don't hear at all from the 80% who did well >because they are out living life.
When they say that %70-%80 of people respond, it is probably by their critera, and within their deemed timeframe. There is no evidence that anywhere near %70-80 of people get any form of long term benifit from ECT.
>Also, clinical studies show that
>people who had depressions as a result of >ecstacy use (damaged serotonin synapses) that >were unresponsive to ssri's and snri's got well >with ECT.What does "got well" mean. That means that they feel better for a little while. But when (not if) they relapse, they will have ecstacy dammage plus ECT damamge. ECT does not repair your brain.
>I never did ecstacy, but I have had short >periods of cocaine, PCP, mescaline, amphetamine, >long periods of marijuana, and not to mention >all the psychiatric drugs mentioned above...who >knows what long term damage or modifications >they do to synapses and such. Of course, I am >aware I could say the same about ECT.I say quit all the psychiartic drugs, and go back to smoking pot. But seriously, try an MAOI. Parnate is a powerful pill. It has a track record of treating certain depression unresponsive to anything. Or try nardil. It is very broad spectrum, affecting all the monoamines and GABA. Demand an MAOI trial.
>There is still room for me to have second >thoughts and back out. But really, how many more >years of trials does one need before exploring >something else that has a good possibility of >helping.You will be back in the same place after you lapse, so whats the deal. Actually you could be in a worse position. I
>Bottom line...we're talking suicidal depression >here. I have had not one but two second
>opinions. All seem to agree this is not the time >to keep messing around with medsDo what you think you have to do. But if you havn't tried an MAOI, I don't think its time for ECT. There are litterally thousands of people who have not responded to anything but MAOI's.
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