Posted by utopizen on July 6, 2005, at 14:02:38
In reply to Speed Question on., posted by Denise1966 on July 2, 2005, at 12:30:07
> Hi,
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> I've never taken any amphetamines before and the chances of my getting Concerta, Adderall or anything like that from my psychiatrist or any psychiatrist in the UK is pretty remote.
>That's mostly because in the UK, psychiatry is not as advanced as it is in the U.S.
Which is weird, since it's certainly not pharmaceutical influence. Shire makes Adderall, and is a U.K. company.
You have to remember, Amphetamine on ADD was first tried in 1937 in Rhode Island by a doctor giving it to pediatric patients in a psychiatric hospital. So we pioneered research in this country, and still do.
Why don't you find yourself a good psychiatric institute known for their ADD research? Perhaps contact your local ADD support group in your country? Here, we have CHADD, which is Children and Adults with ADD. I don't know what you guys have, but Chadd is online at chadd.org.
Frankly, you guys need to make your own support group like CHADD has, and stop letting scientific illiteracy overwhelm your media outlets.
In the U.S., media here often has M.D.'s review scientific-related news reports to check for false arguements, or ones unsupported by scientific research.
In the U.K., I can't imagine the stuff is being written by anyone who does anything but pull rubbish out without thinking twice of whether's it's supported by research.
Go to a hospital that has a prominent unit specializing in diagnosing and treating ADD. Not one run by psychologists, but doctors. My evaluation here in the states in Boston cost me $1600, and was required by my college to receive extended test taking time. But my docs never bother to even read it, and were prescribing me any med I asked them to (I've tried every prescribed stimulant).
It's not sold in the U.K., but here methamphetamine hydrochloride is prescribed for ADD under the brand name Desoxyn. I take 20mg/day.
DO NOT ILLICITLY OBTAIN METHAMPHETAMINE!
It's not the same thing. I can guarantee you, it's almost never 100% meth. To cheapen it even more than it already is, it's regularly mixed in with at least half regular amphetamines.Sounds innocent enough, until you know what happens when your body takes a regular amphetamine and a methamphetamine all at once.
That's mostly what makes the stuff so toxic to users-- it's extremely dangerous to mix that combination, having felt neausous and my friends told me I looked pale white after I innocently took leftover Adderall and Desoxyn (meth) combined by mistake one night.
Also, you will get psychologically addicted, because there's more potent stuff there. You don't just weight it like cocaine or something (which i've never tried, but presume is more controlled given its price). It's made in shoddy "labs" on stove tops by morons who didn't exactly take Accelerated Chem.
You'll never know what you're getting, you're statisically unlikely to get 100% meth, ever, on the streets, and odds are it's almost always mixed in with amphetamines by half, if not stuff you don't even want to know exists.
And if you are taking it to do well in school or for the future, keep in mind risking a felony won't help your reason for taking it.
Adderall or Ritalin is not illegal in the U.K., and it sounds like you have minimal experience even bothering to find out. If you don't know a psychiatrist who specializes in ADD, you might have some problems.
But if you think it's harder to search for a doctor who's prominent in the field than to do time for methamphetamine, honestly I don't think I should bother wasting my time giving you advice to begin with. It's your life.
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