Posted by willyee on July 4, 2005, at 11:35:59
In reply to Re: Hoping my sleep doc will Rx Xyrem for insomnia, posted by paulbwell on July 4, 2005, at 2:12:42
> > I'm jsut afraid my doc will be totally against a barbituate.
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> So you want "the date rape drug" haha and not the tried and true 70yo barbs like Nembutal 1930
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> "Seconal the gift of sleep" Eli Lilly 1950s
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> Still available, i checked on Walgreens
Xyrem (ghb) is poured into acholol,which has always been a contradiction aganist its use,doing this causes extreme sedation and possably one to pass out.Alchlol is the factor,in the same way some cruhed benzos mixed or just about any other strong sedative mixed inside a drink can cause someone to pass out.
Roofies,a mickey,whatever have you alcholol is the culprit.
I hope it comes as know surprise the xyrem was banned as a legal substance,something that requires a procedure,UNLESS you present it as an IMMEDIATE danger,hence the "date rape drug"
Oddly as the substance was banned oprhan encrouged by the FDA began its work with getting it to be a prescription medication.
Xyrem was never very popular,most people still want know what ur talking about unless u say the date rape drug,then youll get the OHH yeah i know that.So it wasnt like the substance was becomming some evil epidemic in date rape.
A lot of people "cap" one of the ingredients of ghb,which seems to be more addictiong and more hard hitting.Aside from that many many people used xyrem before its ban saftly for everything from anxeity&depression,to just about every kind of sleep problem,as well as for its sexual benifits which do NOT include passing out,i mean instead its affect one male and female orgasm intensity.
There were already to legal prescription forms of xyrem in europe long before xyrem was thought of,alcover and gamma-oh which were used for alholol withdrawal,they were banned along with ghbs ban,of course we allowed xyrem.
Unless anyone has read real information on this chemical,its chemistry,and the fact that it can provide one of the deepest restoritve sleep stages than any other substance drug or not,then you will hear the same thing over and over about its date rape use.
It works very similar to ur gaba meds on the market.Unlike alcholol which leaves ur liver in a toxic state,ghb is metbolized to h2o as it passes ur liver.It has an affect on increasing gaba,as well as dopamine and serotonion NATURALLY.
If ghb was a posion,it would not be a script med,no matter how useful it seemed for a condition.
Lastly benzos and barb are believed not to put u in the restortive sleep stage,whether this is true or not i dont know,but i do know its true og xyrem.
In small doses that dont create a "high" ghb works like a benzo and its a shame how many people could be using it in conjunction with there medication today.
Its a shame.
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