Posted by olysi79 on February 7, 2005, at 23:53:51
In reply to Re: For Chris » olysi79, posted by ed_uk on February 6, 2005, at 8:25:29
Hey Ed :)
I was reading through that info with the PDOC flipping out after having the AP. Very interesting for some of those PDOCS to get a taste of their own medicine :) I have Ativan and Klonopin handy and that seems to help witht hat restless feeling. Another nifty little trick is Benedryl of all things, it works good to a certain extent and helps.> Hi Chris!
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> >One PDOC told me that patients used to get it so bad that they would throw themselves off of buildings in mental hospitals. How pleasant.
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> Yes, I have heard that some people have killed themselves because of akathisia.
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> I found this interesting. It describes the effect that the antipsychotic droperidol had on a healthy psychologist. In the study, where droperodol was given to several healthy psychologists, one of them had to admitted to a psychiatric ward for suicidal ideation!!
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> (From the New Scientist)
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> Leading clinical psychologist describes feelings of "helplessness" and "uncontrolled weeping" after taking neuroleptic (antipsychotic)
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> February 1, 2004
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> A leading clinical psychologist has described his experience of taking a neuroleptic medication as part of a clinical trial.
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> Richard Bentall, professor of clinical psychology at the University of Manchester, told the New Scientist magazine how he experienced the symptoms of akathisia, and became agitated and depressed.
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> Bentall, one of clinical psychology's most outspoken critics of psychiatry's medical model, took 5mgs of the neuroleptic droperidol . He was one of the subjects in a study organised by David Healy, professor of psychological medicine at the North Wales Hospital in Bangor.
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> Dr Bentall, a leading proponent of cognitive behavioural therapy in the treatment of psychosis, explained to the magazine: "I felt lethargic and sedated...I felt a sense of depression and hopelessness but also an inner sense of restlessness and agitation. It was a combined wanting to do something and not being able to.
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> "I had to do these neuropsychological tests, and it was embarrassing, but I burst into tears halfway through. I started weeping uncontrollably, so much so that I was given an anticholinergic drug as an antidote and David took me out to get some fresh air.
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> "I suddenly felt I had to tell him about all the things I had ever felt guilty about. Then I went back and fell asleep for three hours. I woke up with a woozy hangover, like there was a glass wall between me and the world and that lasted for about a week after a single dose."
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> Have a look at this.....
> http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/324/7352/1506
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> If ever I go into hospital I'll make sure that a warning is written on my drug chart. I would never agree to take take haloperidol, metoclopramide or prochlorperazine- drugs which are widely used as anti-nauseants in English medical wards. I'd be happy to take domperidone, cyclizine or ondansetron though.
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> What scares me the most is that I might be given an antipsychotic when I'm old and I can't refuse eg. if I had dementia. If I became agitated they'd just keep increasing the dose until I was in hell!! It terrifies me to think how common this must be.
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> >Have you ever had agitated depressions/mixed states? That was the most recent depression I went through and also tends to be the flavor I get periodically for 3-4 days every month or so. I have intense anxiety, agitation, despair and become afraid of everything, almsot like a wierd paranoia.
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> No, I've never had that. I had a lot of very severe anxiety when I was younger though. Perahaps you should take Ativan preventatively when you take Zyprexa for more that a day. What do you think?
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> Ed.
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