Posted by paulbwell on July 29, 2004, at 21:30:29
In reply to Re: Opiates for depression, posted by J. Backer on July 29, 2004, at 15:39:14
> i think opiates/opoids would fall under the catagory of "euphoriant" rather then "anti-deppresant"
> honestly i am an opiate addict, im now in NA and iv been heroin/opiate free for about 11 months. (besides one incident with 24 viconden).
> i kinda have mixed feelings about the idea, i mean scince the early 19th century when bayer patented heroin everybody knew it was the ultimate in mood-elevation. opiates dont do as neer as much liver damage as drinking or benzos and the only real threats are addiction,tolerance,withdrawl and overdose. If your not using street smack and you know your opiates are controlled by the FDA through a pharmacy, the chance of accendental overdose is almost unheard of. most people can handle using opiates without fiending out and becomeing a serious junky. some people (like myself) became addicted as soon they tried them once. either way having a drug addiction is very REAL, its more depressing than anything iv faced sober.
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> now if you really think that opiates are the answer, you need to be prepared to have them at every moment. because once you need them and you don't have them....your a million times worse then if you never did them.
> as for a real idea, get a non-synthetic opiate in your system (codine/morphine/heroin) and go to a methadone clinic. iv been on it and i can say its the best opiate/opoid that could double as an anti-D. it lasts all day. but be warned you will be very addicted within a week, there is no way to avoid it once you start. but methadone is always available to addicts and you wont overdose when its given to you specifcly every morning.
> peace, JIm the guy who posted the first thread. Codeine first got me on the anti- depressant- anxiety path(thanks nurofen plus)200-3--mgs a dose the first results were serenety. no stimulation like prozac and the like. Im now on ritalin and its a short acting fast acting anti-depressant. but I hate the stimulation it sometimes gives. Im 31 and have been suffering from bipolar/depression from 17 like dansopinion. Job stabilisation is all but impossible for me. I live day to day, and with my parents. I often wish to go to sleep and not come to again, iv tried Tegretol and it caused worst depression. so its Clonazepam Ritalin and ocassional Diazepam when my Doc thinks its appropriate! like when my anxiety reaches agitation. I know Opiates can cause more probs than they are worth to some, but they have given me some very needed psychic peace at times.
is seroqual the answer? side effects?
opiates? advice please,Thanks
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