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Re: ACE, breakthrough with Pindolol + Lithium? » temoigneur

Posted by ace on December 7, 2003, at 22:42:15

In reply to ACE, breakthrough with Pindolol + Lithium? ?ace, posted by temoigneur on December 3, 2003, at 1:40:33


>
> Sluggish Neurotransmission definately "feels" like part of the problem. In fact even when I was on this higher dose of zyprexa, there was one day where Inositol activated my mind and made me feel like I was at my prime. Sluggish neurotransmission, this may sound far fetched, folk-lore naivete, but in my desperation I went to a Chinese naturopath - who studied part way originally to become a medical doctor, and he told me my body fluids had condensed into a sort of mucus and it was causing poor neurotransmitter transduction.

I'm not to sold on that idea!

> Do you think lithium + pindolol could ameliorate this, did you mean to take them together?

I meant seperately. I think lithium will really solve the problem if it's sluggish serotonin we are talking about.


I've taken pindolol alone with nardil and lithium with an SSRI and neither of them helped, but is there some special mechanism by which the combination of the two could help with nardil/OCD?

Maybe. Not sure. Give it a try.


If I was to try this what dose range of the Lithium and Pindolol would seem reasonable, and when do you think a good time in the day would be to take them?

I would go for 400mg Lithium and 7.5mg Pindolol.
Take Litium as a single dose in the morning and split Pindolol into 3 seperate doses.

> Unfortunately we don't have amisulpride in Canada.
>
> I am getting a new doctor - an anxiety specialist on the 11th, so desperately hoping for insight there.

Good luck man!

BTW I happen to have Pindolol and Valproic acid, VA couldn't be substituted for lithium?, (shot in the dark)

You could try but I think not.

> > But you sound better than before which is great. Hows life going anyway- you back at school, got a job?
>
> I'm really hoping to be able to be in prime condition to go back to school in January, right now I'm just taking one course localy that I already took at the provincial university, as my
> > mind just can't absorb much of anything on zyprexa, but I'm not in pain like I was before
>
> Thank you so much ACE, I really appreciate your input.
>
> Ben
>
>
>

Ben, one thing I noticed. You said whenever you try to raise your Nardil to 90mg you get depressed. I believe this is due to the Zyprexa. When Zyprexa was at a high dose with me I got a bad depression with Nardil.

I believe 2.5mg with Nardil is max. They seem to work against each other at higher doses.

I think you are missing out on what nardil can truly do for your depression and anxiety and even OCD at a high dose because of this stupid Zyprexa.

I would considering dropping it right down and raising Nardil.

Take care my buddy from Canada!!!

Ace.


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