Posted by cybercafe on October 29, 2003, at 0:20:38
In reply to McPac/Ace/Nardil.........thanks, posted by maryhelen on October 28, 2003, at 5:15:58
hi... i noticed you wrote you were from toronto..... would you mind if i asked what treatment center you go to (clarke or sunnybrook?) i would like to find a good doctor/team/hospital and i am pretty impressed that you have actually found someone to prescribe you MAOIs in the city......hmmm... and Lamictal!?!i share your experience of having gone through 20 pdocs to find someone who knows what they're doing
> McPAC:
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> Thank you so much for directing my post to Ace for help. After I posted I had to go to work, made it against all odds and was even able to work late to try to start getting caught up. Came home, 'crashed' big time, and have just come to the computer this morning, 4:00 Toronto time. Have tried to write this post for the third time and have messed it up somehow, so I am trying again. Thanks again and Ace has responded.
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> ACE:
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> Although I do not post often, but read all the post regularily, I do know well your struggles with the meds, your other disorders, working hard to do your courses ...... I am fortunate enough to not have to deal with OCD, derealization (sp) etc. but have disabling, treatment resistant, down and out depression, not bi-polar with all of the ups and downs, either depressed, more depressed, suicidally depressed.
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> Having said all this, I am truly grateful for your response to my questions about Nardil. I do like my current pdoc, whom I have been with for over 2 years now (been through about 20). He knows I come here and is very open and listens to me when I explain that these are the people who are experiencing the meds and have the first hand experience. With my most recent 'crash' he has tried to supplement the Lamitcal with Celexa, and although I started it, I have been on it three times many years ago with not much affect, except few side effects. He next wants me to try the Electro Magnetic Imaging (if I have said this correctly). Have had two rounds of ECT in 6 years and really do not want to try that type of 'brain therapy' at this time, and have currently returned to work and am trying to take off as little time as possible.
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> He knows I went off the Parnate, and when I phoned him a few days ago I asked if I could try Nardil. I see all of the positive responses, and certainly your confidence in the med. He called me back three times to make sure it does not contradict with Lamitcal and agreed that I could go off the Celexa, cold turkey. I am to call him at home tonight to tell him how I am doing (odd he would give me his home number). Ironically, when I went on the Parnate a few years back, he had prescribed Nardil, but the pharmacist told me it was not available any more. Subsequently, I understand now that, at the time it had been recalled, as you put it, something missing...subpotent Nardil.
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> Again, although I am happy with my pdoc, I am worried about the info he gets and adheres to from the 'big blue book' about dosing. I am in a desperate situation, did not have many noticeable side effects from Parnate, and do not want to start out on really small doses, if it is not necessary.
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> Thank you for your recommendations of which I am going to follow. One of my questions is though, as I remember, the Parnate came in little red pills, 10 mgs., with what looked liked a little happy face on it. I do not know about Nardil, but expect if you are suggesting to begin with 45 mg. dose, it must come in 5 mg. tablets. Also, do I take the 45 mgs. all at once, in the morning?
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> Yes, ACE, I will be patient. I have no choice but to give it time to work. I feel I am coming to the end of it all, after living for 51 very unhappy years. My one worry is trying to work. My job requires me to interact with 500 children, their parents, staff, etc. So I have to try and be okay with public relations and be caring and kind, besides relearning all of the new computer programs. I have been thinking lately, that with all of this suffering and strife in our world, that I am but a small pebble of sand. Yet, I also know that to my daughter and 4 grandchildren, and wonderful family, I am more than that, like a mountain really to my only child. So I must struggle on, although I have worried much lately that things will be out my control. I also know that I am certainly replaceable at work, as my last sick leave has not been the only one, but my pride and dignity and self worth is so much dependent in being able to work and be productive, beside making money, as I am self supporting.
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> Again, thank you, Ace and McPac, for taking the time for your response and help. So much needed and appreciated, and gives me something to hope for in the Nardil.
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> Sorry if my post is rambling and scattered, but again I am panicked, scared and needing to get in the shower and get myself to work.
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> maryhelen
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