Posted by Larry Hoover on August 27, 2003, at 13:53:25
In reply to Re: Larry Hoover: re how much non-fish-oil Omega 3 » Kacy, posted by tealady on August 27, 2003, at 0:12:53
> Hi, I'm not Larry but I think I can add something to help here perhaps too with some things...
> > So far, I tried fish oil three times. The second time I took it religiously for a month. I could only tolerate two black capsules without noticing my heart pound. I don't have heart problems.
> OK, so you'd have to cut the amount you are taking..probably no more than one capsule, once or twice a week to start with for a few months.
> Pounding heart usually signals increased T3 activity to me..may be other causes..anyway..it'sa possibility as fish oil supposedly can increase T3 receptor efficiency
> http://www.udoerasmus.com/articles/reviews/item21.htm go down to thyroid hoormone receptors.
> IF this is what is happening it means you really do need the fish oil..but will have to build it up very gradually..even over years.That's quite a reasonable explanation. Thanks! Her body will have adapted to whatever her old enzyme efficiency was, and the increase in efficiency with supplemented omega-3s would be indistiguishable from hyperthyroid symptoms.
Indeed, a reduced dose, gradually raised over a lengthy time frame, is a darn good idea.
>Fish oil may be different to flax seed or walnuts (both have omega3)...even just swallow drop of fish oil..or eat some sardines/ salmon 3 times a week is the better way to go?
I definitely think the latter idea is also worth trying.
> > I tried flax seed oil and seemed to get acne, too. I am getting ready to try it again. I didn't keep taking it for long and something else may have broken me out.
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> No, I think you are onto something there. I think I break out in acne too..really big ones on the forehead side with big yellow ugly heads that leave scars, sigh. Never had anything like this before either!Have you tried the low and slow dose regime that you suggested, above?
> It probably can also be caused by other oils ..like I have heard of EPO doing this too..even if applied to skin instead of swallowed..at least that is what I think is happening to me.
Taking EPO and any omega-3 at the same time may block this adverse reaction.
> One doc said that it means our bodies are taking the wrong pathway again ...dumb body!...and converting the EPO (GLA's) to androgenic hormones...which apparently can happen.Like our bodies decide to make testosterone out of GLA's I think. I wonder why some of us do this ? Anyone any ideas of what we have too much of or are missing?
The omega-3 synergy may solve it. I don't know for sure....I haven't had the problem, so I haven't done the experiment.
> Similarly it is found that some taking CLA's will convert down some wrong pathway to cause increaed insulin resoistance and make one prone to diabetesII....haven't tried that one and not going to
It can happen, but I think chromium blocks that adverse result. I'll have to get back to you on that. (I'm not at home.....I'm at my ex's place for a few days.}
> So what's this mean? Well, personally, I'm NOT trying CLA's. With the omega 6's and GLA's (like EPO)..I wouldn't overdo, but I'm still trying on my skin with the occasional EPO capsule to try to get my body "used " to them. Definitely no more than one every 2-3 days or so.
> I do realise , like Lar said that we have to have a balance of omega3's to omega 6's.
> http://www.longevinst.org/nlt/EFAs.pdf look at table 2 for decreasing order of omega3's....even butter is not too bad..and that doesn't cause any of these wierd side effects..nor did beef lard!Thanks for the link! Butter has been given a real bad press, and it is way better for you than margarine. In fact, if you can get butter from pastured cattle (and beef from same), you may not even need omega-3 supps.
> I think these oils (omega 6's and 3's) cause flatuence too...and that's not even swallowing them..just appying to skin, I think!
Wow! Really?
> It could be something else..I haven't really tried on and off enough to be certain..in the menatime, I try to keep the dog handy...
LOL!
> So maybe half a dozen almonds, half a dozen walnuts, 2 brazil nuts every day and 1 fish oilcap (or sardines etc) ..about 2 times a week for starters??
> How's that sound Lar?Excellent.
Lar
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