Posted by tealady on August 27, 2003, at 0:12:53
In reply to Larry Hoover: re how much non-fish-oil Omega 3 , posted by Kacy on August 26, 2003, at 22:43:37
Hi, I'm not Larry but I think I can add something to help here perhaps too with some things...
> So far, I tried fish oil three times. The second time I took it religiously for a month. I could only tolerate two black capsules without noticing my heart pound. I don't have heart problems.
OK, so you'd have to cut the amount you are taking..probably no more than one capsule, once or twice a week to start with for a few months.
Pounding heart usually signals increased T3 activity to me..may be other causes..anyway..it'sa possibility as fish oil supposedly can increase T3 receptor efficiency
http://www.udoerasmus.com/articles/reviews/item21.htm go down to thyroid hoormone receptors.
IF this is what is happening it means you really do need the fish oil..but will have to build it up very gradually..even over years. Fish oil may be different to flax seed or walnuts (both have omega3)...even just swallow drop of fish oil..or eat some sardines/ salmon 3 times a week is the better way to go?I got acne so badly that month I couldn't believe it. It's a problem, anyway. I took zinc and e with it and ate the fish oil with yogurt. The third time, I tried it just to see if it caused the acne. This time I broke out on day two. By four days, I regretted continuing. Two other people on this board posting about fish oil causing acne recently.
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> I tried flax seed oil and seemed to get acne, too. I am getting ready to try it again. I didn't keep taking it for long and something else may have broken me out.
>No, I think you are onto something there. I think I break out in acne too..really big ones on the forehead side with big yellow ugly heads that leave scars, sigh. Never had anything like thi before either!
It probably can also be caused by other oils ..like I have heard of EPO doing this too..even if applied to skin instead of swallowed..at least that is what I think is happening to me.
One doc said that it means our bodies are taking the wrong pathway again ...dumb body!...and converting the EPO (GLA's) to androgenic hormones...which apparently can happen.Like our bodies decide to make testosterone out of GLA's I think. I wonder why some of us do this ? Anyone any ideas of what we have too much of or are missing?
Similarly it is found that some taking CLA's will convert down some wrong pathway to cause increaed insulin resoistance and make one prone to diabetesII....haven't tried that one and not going toSo what's this mean? Well, personally, I'm NOT trying CLA's. With the omega 6's and GLA's (like EPO)..I wouldn't overdo, but I'm still trying on my skin with the occasional EPO capsule to try to get my body "used " to them. Definitely no more than one every 2-3 days or so.
I do realise , like Lar said that we have to have a balance of omega3's to omega 6's.
http://www.longevinst.org/nlt/EFAs.pdf look at table 2 for decreasing order of omega3's....even butter is not too bad..and that doesn't cause any of these wierd side effects..nor did beef lard!I think these oils (omega 6's and 3's) cause flatuence too...and that's not even swallowing them..just appying to skin, I think!
It could be something else..I haven't really tried on and off enough to be certain..in the menatime, I try to keep the dog handy...
> In the meantime, I'm looking for alternatives. So far, I started having a handful of plain almonds a day. I found the following information on the net. I not sure if these sources are as good as cod liver oil or fish oil. There always seems to be a catch.well almonds don't contain n-3..still good choice for other things and healthy
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> Walnuts: "New studies show that walnuts contain omega-3 fatty acids. Fish are the more familiar source of these beneficial fats, but walnuts contain an omega-3 called alpha linolenic acid (ALA). A high intake of ALA is protective against heart attack. Studies suggest that 2 grams of ALA--the amount in an ounce of walnuts--a day is sufficient to produce these benefits."
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> "English walnuts are a supersource of omega-3 fatty acid, which is considered the main lifesaving agent in fish. Walnuts have five times more omega-3 than any other nut. Very few plant foods have any at all. Walnuts also are high in antioxidant anti-cancer ellagic acid. "
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> "The following servings all supply about 2 grams of alpha-linolenic acid:… 1 ounce walnuts (about 14 walnut halves)."Do walnuts give you pimples or flatuence? Maybe walnuts are a good place to start? I've eaten almonds OK with no side effects. Now walnuts and almonds would give a nice balance
While on nuts, brazil nuts ..about 2 a day give you enough selenium ..and almonds (I think from memory) contain a bit of selenium and calcium and VitE..which is supposed to be taken in conjunction with fish oil I think??
So maybe half a dozen almonds, half a dozen walnuts, 2 brazil nuts every day and 1 fish oilcap (or sardines etc) ..about 2 times a week for starters??
How's that sound Lar?
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