Posted by john Henry on July 30, 2003, at 21:04:23
In reply to Re: testosterone equals bigger, stronger erections, posted by stjames on July 30, 2003, at 16:54:56
> depression. You shouldnt generalize testosterone with cortisone or prednisone...its apples and oranges.
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> > Igor
Again, you are not getting my posts. My point was, and it was clear, that that which makes you feel better does not mean it is a sucessful treatment nor is it really treating the cause.>>>>Androgenic/anabolic steroids are not recreational drugs.They produce no "high" or"low" unlike benzo's,mood stabilizers,anti-psychotics or ritalin and Dexedrine etc.
>>>>Why can't you understand it is a proven fact
men with low levels of testosterone are more depressed,angry and not-well.By enhancing their tesosterone levels they have feelings of well being,vigor and a new found "youth" and research shows them to be calmer.So wouldn't you say that the feeling better = using testosterone is in part due to treating the cause=low levels of endogenous Testosterone?>>>>Also how do benzodiazepines treat the cause?
How do SSRI'S help when there is a withdrawl syndrome? So how would this = a successful treatment?
Please read my posts more carefully, and ask before you assume.
>>>>Please learn more about ratios of androgenic/anabolic steroids,provide long term data to support your stance,know about all steroids such as estrogen,cortisol,pregnenolone,dhea and aldosterone and Testosterone which are the only ones to produce anabolism,LH,Fsh,leydig's cells,HPTA,DHT,5 alpha reductase enzyme,Aromatase,GRN,SHBG,Glucocorticoid,estradiol,progesterone,prolactin,how testosterone effects the CNS and neurotransmitters,Did you know Dianabol produces Dopamine? Do you know the the molecule's and esters? How about the 6 known androgen receptor cellular protein co-activators,Growth hormone,igf-1,Do you know how many paths testosterone can take? What about the 17-alpha alkylated steroids(17-aa)? The difference between human and veterinary steroids? Why is Oxandrin,an anabolic steroid given to HIV/AIDS patients? Which ones bind to the AR receptor more than others? Do you know what year they became a schedule 3(schedule 2 in New York) class on the DEA's list? Look at one of my links,which I doubt you have,but look at the study where they,61 males ages 18-35, were given 600 mgs/week of Testosterone for 20 weeks but monitered for 40 weeks.After the study there was no change in PSA(prostate-specific antigen),Liver enzymes or cognitive functioning,the only negative trait was a slight HDL reduction.Wheres all the cancer and heart atacks?Another group of 30 HIV men were given 600mgs/week of Nandrolone for 16 weeks.No problems occured on all tests.There was actually a rise in LDL.The only negative trait was a slight reduction of HDL.
Wheres the cancer? Wheres the heart attacks?
Also some researchers at Harvard and St.John's estimate that more than 50% of HIV-positive people ned hormone replacement therapy to support overall health? How could this be when you claim "roids" are so dangerous?So before you assume anything you know about Androgenic/anabolic steroids(which is probably from the media) don't make statements that you cant back up....
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