Posted by Squiggles on November 6, 2002, at 8:44:57
In reply to Withdrawal...AD's vs. bzds » Squiggles, posted by Alan on November 6, 2002, at 7:55:43
Alan,
I think "convinced at last" is meant to
refer to "the protracted syndrome" debate by
Hiba.Anyway, yes I have seen this article before
actually. The problem is (not so much for me
as i am sucker for sufferring people) that many
ADs have their very own private law firm for
particular drugs now; i kid you not. This
may be viewed with a very cynical eye.
For as true and convincing as these SSRI reports
may be, the "other" side, for whatever reasons
may use statistical artillary--e.g. "but 66% of
my patients who have taken this drug have not
killed their child, cat, dog, parrot, etc."As for the initial disease cropping up, how
ironic that the very same argument has been
used in the benzo debate. And really quite
poor at that, as it seem ubiquitous with any
product that is viewed as causally responsible
for an adverse effect. I think that a
comparison between before and after mental states
IS the correct reply to that, as Dr. Healy points
out here.I know someone personally, who took an SSRI for
a very short period of time. I think time taken
is very important (is it possible that brain changes
take place with repeated dosage?); and finding it
very agitating and disagreeable, was weaned off over
a month i believe. I don't think there have been
any problems.However, one should consider the initial
state of the person taking say PROZAC - which is what
this person took: if the person is in a depressed AND
agitated condition with severe anxiety the effect of
PROZAC may be very different from someone say in
something more catatonic.It seems that all these drugs have quick and profound
brain changes. I know that the discoverer of PROZAC
actually won the Nobel prize, and much was made
of his homely background (just a country boy making
good, etc. etc.) and I wonder if his mentors and
colleagues just didn't get a little too romantic.Of course, there is another problem with new drugs..
all new drugs... to see the effect on humans rather
that experimental animals, required a few years if not
decades. Perhaps the very obvious and fast observations
of SSRIs are a blessing in disguise, as new drugs
are now replacing them.Regarding the comparison to benzos... I can't say really;
certainly you do not hear of such rage, leading to
murders, suicides, but there is rage enough to account
for airplaine rage, and car rage, and possibly domestic
rage; the thing with benzos, is that in cases of
panic and agitation resulting from inter-dose withdrawal,
there is the dubious advantage of being able to pop
another pill. You can't do that with SSRIs.Squiggles
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