Posted by Geezer on July 17, 2002, at 14:16:29
In reply to I disagree., posted by mist on July 17, 2002, at 13:06:13
> I think psychological issues can produce symptoms of depression in some people. Depression is simply a condition, there is not one cause for it. Nature/nurture is a two way street.
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> I also don't agree with the idea that people who think their depression has psychological causes are "not really depressed," or "not as depressed as those with 'biological' depression (again, that's a false dichotomy anyway—it's not either/or). In my case, I believe psychological factors were significant in my becoming depressed. Last year when I was severely depressed not only was I unable to work, but when I was at my worst, I couldn't even compose a post. My ability to think let alone do anything was severely affected. I could say (in response to some of the "more depressed than thou" statements I've read on this board), that anyone who posts here isn't that depressed because they can compose a post. I don't want to play that game, but I think it's something to keep in mind for people who want to make light of others' depression just because they happen to be aware of more than one factor contributing to it.Hi Mist,
I respectfully disagree. I do agree, however, with the being able to post comment. When I am at my worst I can't get my head off the desk - but that can ONLY be changed with drug adjustments. For me its a matter of chemistry/physiology-genetics. Any changes in mood, that may be construed a psychological, come as a result of chemistry changes NOT because of cognative therapy.
Maybe the key to the discussion is the meaning of the word sever or REAL. Sounds like your depression is as sever as mine, the question is how does one get out of that state. I have tried "talk therapy" on three different occasions, talking didn't reduce symptoms, prolong intervals of wellness or prevent recurrence. In brief - I wouldn't give you two empty beer cans for a tdoc. and all the psychological wizardry. As it aplies to me only, when I get hit hard with it, I don't "wish upon a star", I get to the pdoc ASAP.
You maybe right, it is a bit like arguing politics or religion, everybody has an opinion. What ever floats you boat.
Regards
Geezer
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