Posted by Sally green on June 14, 2002, at 11:03:26
In reply to Re: Buprenorphine, My experience » sally green, posted by Elizabeth on June 13, 2002, at 20:39:31
I don't know where you get the idea that people who are prescribed opiates for pain rarely get addicted?? I have been in several pain management clinics. I have friends who attend the same clinic for pain related problems. EVERYONE of them are addicted to either Oxycotin or Fentanyl patches!
All of the patients, who started this detox with me , discovered over the internet, have increased their usage of Buprenex by atleast one amp per day every visit! This is contrary to the information provided by this clinic itself! Their exact words are: patients who have used opiates for longer than 6 months can benfit by the use of a minimal, regulated dosage of buprenex. I would not consider 7.25 vials of Buprenex per day and an increasing of Buprenex by 30 amps per month at each visit a minimal regulated dosage!
When I was researching Buprenex, it was much easier to find information on Buprenex usage for depressed patients than it was for its use for pain management. I do not have any problems with depression and therefore I touched on these sites because they offered information on general usage of buprenex and my concern was to find info on pain management. To recall specific sites pertaining to depression and Buprenex are unlikely. I believe alot of the information was obtained by just searching Buprenex. There you should see the studies, many for depression and detox.
In agreement with what you said, and you have answered your own questions, a person with addiction can benefit from one dose daily, while the depressed or pain suffer may better benefit from several doses daily. These patients at the detox clinic are administering the Buprenex all day!!!! Just like they did the heroin or oxycotin. Substituting one addiction for another!! With my severe pain and past problem with oxycotin, I could not imagine being able to use 7.25 amps of Buprenex per day. The fact that my friend can not even make it to his clinic visit without a vial of Buprenex, tells me he is addicted to the Buprenex! In fact, of all the people I have talked with at this clinic, not one is using the Buprenex once a day and are using it all day long. Basically because they are being given enough of the drug to do so. If this clinic followed their own stated protocals of cutting the meds in half after the first visit and then decreasing the amount of Buprenex given a patient weekly, the addict would be forced to use a minimal amount, hopefully giving way to controlling their also addictive personality! I know that this site is for the discussing of issues, unfortuantely not everyone has access to a computer or has knowledge of this site. This clinic specifically states that it offers, as part of the cost of your detox, counseling for addiction, so that people can talk with educated, trained addiction doctors. However, no such counseling is offered or available once the patient begins treatment. I was told by the DEA and FDA it is still in its investigational stages and that my state is not isssuing Investigational New Drug Certificates for Buprenex and if approved for detox there will be specific regulations governoring the distribution of the drug and the specifics around the exact protocal to be used. I was also told by the FDA and DEA that the protocals for detox surely will be nothing like the ones being practiced at the clinic that my friends are attending. This is why both of these agencies are investigating this clinic. I may have seen information on depression and Buprenex on the FDA's site and the DEA's site. Sorry I can not be more specific about the sites. As I stated earlier my main concerns were the use of Buprenex in detox and pain management.
Sally
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