Posted by JohnX2 on November 17, 2001, at 2:54:02
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » JohnX2, posted by Pamela Lynn on November 14, 2001, at 8:03:39
I was at place A and needed to drive to place
B, which was withing 20 minutes of driving.
When I left location A, I was "fine" it was
inbetween that the med side effects from
paxil/Serzone hit me really hard.
Just really bad timing.I've learned to start meds on the weekend and
not operate machinery until I feel steady on
the meds. At the time I has in major depressive
despair and it was during my 1st few meds, so I
just didn't know better. I think the doctors
could have done a better job of warning me. I
tend to react very heavily to meds with drowsiness
side effects. Now that I have a lot of background
data, I know which meds to avoid or watch out
for carefully as I dose them.On the bright side, I had a grocery bag next
to be when I barfed which worked nicely as a
barf bag. And the accident was a slight rear-end
job. One of my tires was a little flat and I skid
about 4 feet after I slammed on the brakes and
hit the person in front of me. I think if my car
was in better shape or if I reacted a split
second sooner (which serzone prevented),
the accident would have been avoided. BTW I
gave up on Serzone because of this, but it was
one of the few AD's that worked well. Here is
a case where I argue that augmentation of a
stimulant may have been acceptable to offset
the serzone side effects. I would have happily
taken meds to offset side effects if I could
have remained not-depressed, but that was
not "that" pdocs style.Rats.
-john
> Once again here John...."whatever works for you"...and no, I have never thrown up in my car or just about passed out from meds. while driving my car!!! My gosh..that's happened to you? I won't even drive my car if I was on Benadryl...when I take meds. I KNOW what the side effects can/are. I am a very informed and well researched patient. I hope whoever reads this is also well informed about the meds that they are on.
>
> I am not going to get into this any further however, this is all I will post on this matter...Thanks for listening. P.L.
> > Ever throw up in your car, or just about pass out
> > on a med and crash into someone? Believe me, I feel
> > the pain!
> >
> > Good luck finding non-intrusive meds.
> > I believe that not being depressed must include
> > not having shitty side effects but that does not
> > seem to be what the FDA accepts as being "cured".
> > So I look for meds to cure my depression with
> > low side effects which currently in order is
> >
> > 1) Lamictal - > 0 side effects
> > 2) Klonopin - > less anxiety
> > 3) Zyprexa - > a teansy drowsy but that's it at 5 mg.
> >
> > While I haven't completely cured my dysthymia,
> > I *refuse* at this point to trade off getting more
> > side effects for more anti-depressant relief.
> >
> > I guess there is a "Gray" area where we must draw
> > a line in the sand. When I had Major Depression, the
> > side effects were less of a big deal. but now...
> >
> > regards,
> > john
> >
> >
> > > Well...that last thing I have to say on this subject is that I REALLY don't like to take anymore meds. then I 'have to'...You know? For me, and this is just 'my' thinking, my liver is going through enough with the anti-depressants that I am on. Example: I used to take Zyprexa in a solid block, pretty high dose...WOW, was I zonked out like a zombie for a few days...I figured it to be the Zyprexa and contacted my shrink right away...she lowered the dose and put me on half doses throughout the day instead...What a difference. I was not a zombie anymore!! Again..that is just my opinion/experience.
> > >
> > > I say..."whatever works for you" is the right thing.
> > >
> > > P.L.
> > > > I don't think so. Maybe you could wake up after
> > > > 8 hrs and take the adderall and only need 9 hrs
> > > > of sleep and not feel tired. hint.hint.
> > > > That's what I did. Cut my sleeping from 12 hrs
> > > > down to 8.
> > > >
> > > > Again, agree that a stand-alone med that is
> > > > making one that drowsy may not be wise. But offsetting
> > > > it with stimulating meds is a solution.
> > > >
> > > > -john
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >LOL JohnX2!!!!!
> > > > > However.....I would not take meds. that I could not function on after 10-12 hrs of sleep! Really!! I think, am pretty sure actually, that my Psychiatrist would be pretty unsettled by it also! If after (in my opinion only here) 10-12 hrs. of sleep one feels the need to go back to sleep and is very sluggish, it would tell 'me' that I needed a change of some sort in my meds. You know?
> > > > >
> > > > > Pamela Lynn
> > > > > > Well, I can wake up to the alarm clock next
> > > > > > to my bed and pick up the bottle of Adderall
> > > > > > and pop a pill and hit the snooze button, but
> > > > > > I can't do much more than that! At 1st I took
> > > > > > the Adderall when I woke up and took a shower,
> > > > > > but I felt too crummy for 1 hr and it was difficult
> > > > > > to even get into the shower, that's when I
> > > > > > started plan B (wake up to alarm, take pill, go
> > > > > > back to sleep). Hey, maybe I can patent a mechanical
> > > > > > device to administer a med in the morning while
> > > > > > you are sleeping! I'd be rich! Maybe I could patent
> > > > > > a med that has now side effects and works for
> > > > > > everyone! I'd be Bill Gates!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I couldn't wake up to an alarm, I would be
> > > > > > very leary of the meds I was taking! What if
> > > > > > your house caught on fire or something?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > john
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you take this one hour before waking up if you can't wake up???? I'm confused.
> > > > > > > > When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
> > > > > > > > about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
> > > > > > > > Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
> > > > > > > > races.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Maybe something less controversial like provigil
> > > > > > > > would help?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My 2c. your experience may vary.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > john
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggesions?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - K.
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