Posted by petey on November 14, 2001, at 9:36:56
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » JohnX2, posted by Pamela Lynn on November 14, 2001, at 8:03:39
> Once again here John...."whatever works for you"...and no, I have never thrown up in my car or just about passed out from meds. while driving my car!!! My gosh..that's happened to you? I won't even drive my car if I was on Benadryl...when I take meds. I KNOW what the side effects can/are. I am a very informed and well researched patient. I hope whoever reads this is also well informed about the meds that they are on.
>
> I am not going to get into this any further however, this is all I will post on this matter...Thanks for listening. P.L.
> > Ever throw up in your car, or just about pass out
> > on a med and crash into someone? Believe me, I feel
> > the pain!
> >
> > Good luck finding non-intrusive meds.
> > I believe that not being depressed must include
> > not having shitty side effects but that does not
> > seem to be what the FDA accepts as being "cured".
> > So I look for meds to cure my depression with
> > low side effects which currently in order is
> >
> > 1) Lamictal - > 0 side effects
> > 2) Klonopin - > less anxiety
> > 3) Zyprexa - > a teansy drowsy but that's it at 5 mg.
> >
> > While I haven't completely cured my dysthymia,
> > I *refuse* at this point to trade off getting more
> > side effects for more anti-depressant relief.
> >
> > I guess there is a "Gray" area where we must draw
> > a line in the sand. When I had Major Depression, the
> > side effects were less of a big deal. but now...
> >
> > regards,
> > john
> >
> >
> > > Well...that last thing I have to say on this subject is that I REALLY don't like to take anymore meds. then I 'have to'...You know? For me, and this is just 'my' thinking, my liver is going through enough with the anti-depressants that I am on. Example: I used to take Zyprexa in a solid block, pretty high dose...WOW, was I zonked out like a zombie for a few days...I figured it to be the Zyprexa and contacted my shrink right away...she lowered the dose and put me on half doses throughout the day instead...What a difference. I was not a zombie anymore!! Again..that is just my opinion/experience.
> > >
> > > I say..."whatever works for you" is the right thing.
> > >
> > > P.L.
> > > > I don't think so. Maybe you could wake up after
> > > > 8 hrs and take the adderall and only need 9 hrs
> > > > of sleep and not feel tired. hint.hint.
> > > > That's what I did. Cut my sleeping from 12 hrs
> > > > down to 8.
> > > >
> > > > Again, agree that a stand-alone med that is
> > > > making one that drowsy may not be wise. But offsetting
> > > > it with stimulating meds is a solution.
> > > >
> > > > -john
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >LOL JohnX2!!!!!
> > > > > However.....I would not take meds. that I could not function on after 10-12 hrs of sleep! Really!! I think, am pretty sure actually, that my Psychiatrist would be pretty unsettled by it also! If after (in my opinion only here) 10-12 hrs. of sleep one feels the need to go back to sleep and is very sluggish, it would tell 'me' that I needed a change of some sort in my meds. You know?
> > > > >
> > > > > Pamela Lynn
> > > > > > Well, I can wake up to the alarm clock next
> > > > > > to my bed and pick up the bottle of Adderall
> > > > > > and pop a pill and hit the snooze button, but
> > > > > > I can't do much more than that! At 1st I took
> > > > > > the Adderall when I woke up and took a shower,
> > > > > > but I felt too crummy for 1 hr and it was difficult
> > > > > > to even get into the shower, that's when I
> > > > > > started plan B (wake up to alarm, take pill, go
> > > > > > back to sleep). Hey, maybe I can patent a mechanical
> > > > > > device to administer a med in the morning while
> > > > > > you are sleeping! I'd be rich! Maybe I could patent
> > > > > > a med that has now side effects and works for
> > > > > > everyone! I'd be Bill Gates!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I couldn't wake up to an alarm, I would be
> > > > > > very leary of the meds I was taking! What if
> > > > > > your house caught on fire or something?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > john
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you take this one hour before waking up if you can't wake up???? I'm confused.
> > > > > > > > When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
> > > > > > > > about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
> > > > > > > > Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
> > > > > > > > races.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Maybe something less controversial like provigil
> > > > > > > > would help?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My 2c. your experience may vary.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > john
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggesions?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - K.
Pamela Lynn,
I know exactly what your saying about being a well informed patient and getting as much info. about a med. before taking it. When I was first dx'd with depression, my doctor put me on Paxil. I specifically asked her what the side-effects were and she said, fatigue, dry mouth, anxiety, etc. She had no idea what this med. could do to some people. I was never so sick in my life!!! Pupils dialated, couldn't sleep for WEEKS, couldn't eat, numbness in my face, an all over sickness that I cannot describe! I ended up in the hospital with psychotic major depression. This all happened to a person who was mildly depressed. For the last 15 months, my life has been hell. I could not research the meds. they put me on in the hospital, just had to trust them and go along with the program. At that point, I would take anything they wanted me to just to stop the pain. Actually everything they gave me made me worse! Made me like a zombie and I couldn't remember anything! A nurse would tell me her name and I would forget it before she walked away! After they got me "stabilized", they sent me home. That is when I really started to research the drugs they had put me on. I found that what I was experiencing was drug induced psycosis. I started to wean myself off some of the meds. they had put me on and all the paranoia and obsessive thinking went away! I am down to 12.5 mgs. of zoloft and feel like crap! I don't know if I feel this bad due to withdrawl or what. After this terrible experience, I found that my progesterone level is very low and was told that could have been the reason I was depressed in the first place! Before I went on the Paxil, I asked my doctor specifically if she would check my hormones and she said I was much to young to have any problems with that yet. So now, after all I've been through you can bet I reasearch EVERYTHING that goes in my body . I'm even afraid to take over the counter meds. when I have a cold or something else. Just to let you know, before I started the Paxil, I did read all the information about it that I could find and talked to my doctor about side-effects. I was told not to worry and that I was not going to believe how much BETTER I was going to feel when this med. kicked in! Well, that didn't happen and I'm still suffering today because of bad judgement by myself and my doctor. This has really taught me not to trust doctos (like I always did), and to not take ANYTHING without knowing all thae facts first. A very hard lesson to learn! Take care!
Petey
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