Posted by shelliR on August 13, 2001, at 21:47:51
In reply to Re: Follow up to replies » shelliR, posted by JahL on August 13, 2001, at 19:34:13
> > >There's a doctor named Jenson (can't remember his first name) in CA who's written a book about how to test meds for yourself, and I understand he has a lot of options that are generally not considered. Also two people on the board have had consults with him with very good results, only he is no longer doing phone consultations. You have to get his book now, or go to CA. It might be worth it, to buy his book, if you really want to put one more surge of energy into exploring meds for your depression/apathy.
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> Hi Shelli.
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> There's probably some merit to Jensen's "everything-but-the-kitchen-sink" approach & I'm with you on exploring unconventional meds. I would be dead but for this approach. However I *wouldn't* recommend anyone gets the aforementioned guy as their personal pdoc. Trust me on this one....So you've actually been to see the man himself ?
Is he like the wizard of oz? < g >
The two people I know of who really like him did phone consultations.
> Meanwhile I may've found a way to trial Buph. myself....Can't you just order it off the internet? I know the sublingual type is available there.
>> BTW Jensen does not endorse *any* use of opioids, though in his book he does recognise that the opiod receptor system may have a part to play in depression (?!).
Does he advise not to use them, or just ignores the topic?
> Parnate going OK?
The parnate sucks, so far. I was really excited at 10mg, no side effects. But when I went 15 I felt not great, and then at 20, I sleep away all of the last weekend, and was sick in my stomach. Today I went back down to 10, but tomorrow I should try 15 for a few days. I'm discouraged because I don't generally adjust to drugs that I don't take to right at the start. Nardil took a long time to work for me, but aside from afternoon fatique and needing meds to sleep, I had none of that whole body tiredness or stomach sickness that I am getting above 10mg of Parnate. So I'm really discouraged. Pdoc upped the oxycontin to let me take a 10mg prn, and so far I've taken the extra every day. I'd like to also look into buprenorphine because obviously I am getting acclimated to the oxycontin; 10mg used to blow me to nirvana for the first month.
I hate wasting time on things that don't work. My next plan (if I can't tolerate the parnate, or it doesn't work) is to go back to nardil and combine it with either buph or concerta. I'll have to discuss that with my pdoc, who is now away for his August vacation.I am getting ready to go to New Mexico in a few weeks; last year I didn't end up going because of depression. This year I am definitely going, but I can't believe I have made no progress in a year. I guess I am lucky that nardil worked for so many years for me, although to be really honest I am not feeling very lucky right now.
Glad you're thinking of bup, please keep me informed.
Take care, Shelli
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