Posted by jojo on July 23, 2001, at 23:45:06
In reply to Re: Effexor stuff » jojo, posted by Elizabeth on July 22, 2001, at 15:19:09
> This is not about being "intellectually honest" or "medically pragmatic", it
is about politics, the art of the possible. Part of that art is forcing one's
opponents, and I use that word advisedly, into an untenable position, which
is what I am suggesting.Beating our opponents by playing as dirty as they do? I'm not really in favour
of that, even if it's the only way. I think we would debase ourselves and
betray our own values if we did that.I'm not REALLY in favor of it either, but if that's the alternative, I'll take it.
We (the human race) have already debased ourselves,and we continue to do so, and bring shame
to ourselves as a comunity, every day that the penal systems of the "Developed Countries"
continue to dehumanize our children and those of others (read that as all human beings). Let's start paying more attention to
the chain of events (the causes) which lead to behavior, instead of relying on Wittgenstein's non existant "Little Man Within", who knows RIGHT from WRONG, and therefore deserves to be punished
'to the full extent of the law' for his transgressions."Maybe, but I think it would not be clinically correct to make no distinction."
Medicine cannot always be "clinically correct". If I remember correctly, the few autopsies that are being carried out these days seem to indicate that it is usually clinically incorrect. Even Pathology, more of a Science than Clinical Medicine, has its built in defects. My mother had a "Pleomorphic Salivary Adenoma" growing on the base of her tongue. After it was first described, possibly a hundred years or so ago, it was found that in about 1 or 2 % of the time, it metastasized. Possibly it should more properly have been labled a Pleomorphic Salavary Adenocarcinoma", but we can't change a hundred years of Pathologic nomenclature. Similarly with a "Nevus", defined as an overgrowth of normal cells. It was thought that the pigment cells that make up the common "mole" were normal cells. They were later found to be abnormal, and were called "pigment cell nevi". A Pigment Cell Nevus is therefore not a nevus! This we can live with, but I don't think that we can continue living with the belief that "good" and "bad" choices are always made by "good" and "bad" people.
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