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Re: no more silly arguments :-) » Elizabeth

Posted by Zo on July 6, 2001, at 23:29:33

In reply to Re: no more silly arguments :-) » Zo, posted by Elizabeth on July 6, 2001, at 22:48:41

> Farm area?
Next to heavily-sprayed apple orchard.

> > NPDs and meds. . my two favorite subjects. Not > >that we'll ever find out what works for the >disorder, *the* subset Least Likely To Seek Help. LOL.
>
> Less likely than antisocials, you think?
>
> -elizabeth

I would think so, yes, because of the Grandiosity as primary defense structure...rather rules out *needing* any help, categorically. Also, they cover *very* well.

Just happened across this:

http://www.mhc.com/Algorithms/Depression/personal.htm#Narcissistic

There has been increased awareness of and interest in this personality disorder since Kohut proposed the usefulness of specific new techniques of psychotherapy. Formal studies actually show a low rate of presence of narcissistic personality disorder in depressed patients, and a relatively higher rate in successfully remitted depressed patients.1 However, Kohut2 and an older literature describe a chronic dysthymia in narcissistic patients that reflects their pervasive lack of pleasure in life, lack of humor, lack of empathy for others, emptiness, hypochondriasis, but strong mood-responsiveness to admiration. Experience in clinical consultation reveals there are many such patients who fail adequate initial pharmacotherapy and that they are over-represented among persistently depressed, non-melancholic patients.3

A review of the literature reveals no clues as to whether continued sequential trials of medication will be helpful for such patients, but local experience is that they remain treatment-resistant to medication. One patient responded to bupropion. They do seem to gradually respond to long term psychotherapy if they remain committed to it.


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