Posted by BK on March 31, 2001, at 20:01:49
In reply to Re: Adrafinil for Social phobia? JohnL, posted by jb on March 30, 2001, at 21:19:43
> > > Hi, John. Are you out there, or just on a PsychoBabble vacation? Would really, realy like to know of your experience with Adrafinil for social phobia?
> > >
> > > Was it close to 100% effective, as someone else had claimed in a previous post?
> > >
> > > How did it compare to "gold standard" Nardil and Klonopin?
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> > > Was your social phobia relatively severe and intractable?
> > >
> > > Dosage which work for you, and dosing schedule?
> > >
> > > Any experience with Provigil (Modafinil), which is made of the primary active metabolite of Adrafinl?
> > >
> > >
> > > Many, many thanks, in advance, for your thoughts.
> > >
> > > JB
> >
> > JB,
> > I think Adrafinil is quite helpful for social phobia. After a month or so of treatment, it can be expected that quiet people will become more talkative, more social, and more active. Shy people become more outgoing. Though I like Adrafinil, I think it works best when tried in combination with either Prozac, Amisulpride, or both.
> >
> > I cannot compare Adrafinil to Nardil or Klonopin because I have tried neither of those. The only MAOI I did try made me worse real fast, and the only benzo I tried made me lethargic, less active, less outgoing.
> >
> > I find one tab a day works fine. But I also take one tab Prozac and one tab Zyprexa. I think all three are contributing to my wellness. No single drug has ever worked as completely as this cocktail on my symptoms.
> >
> > Concerning Modafinil, I hated it. Horrible. I couldn't believe it was so closely related to Adrafinil, because it seemed like a totally different drug to me. It was awful. If I had to make a list of my all time favorites, Adrafinil would be up there on the list. If I made a list of my all time worst duds, Modafinil would be there. I have a real hard time believing that Modafinil is the metabolite of Adrafinil. I don't think it is as simple as that. All I know for sure is Modafinil was lousy for me.
> > John
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> Hi, John. Thanks for the additional Adrafinil information, as well as your experience with Modafinil. I understand where you're coming from, in terms of the side effects of what are supposed to be two almost identical meds. It's never really as simple as that.
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> Also, like you, I am becoming more of a believer in polypharmacy, until that one magical med is developed.
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> Oh, by the way, are you getting your blood monitored for potential liver toxicity due to Adrafinil?
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> Thanks, again.
>
> John B
I've been on Adrafinil for about seven weeks and have experienced little or no positive effects on my mood, social behavior or cognitive abilities. I was so hopeful that this drug could do much to help my mood and motivation. On John L's suggestion, I'm going to try to supplement my 300mg/day Adrafinil dosage with Prozac. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.To date, the only drug that has helped my mood significantly was Nardil, albeit short lived. Please don't let my negative experience discourage anyone from giving Adrafinil a try. Clearly, this drug has helped others.
BK
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